The babyjesuschristsuperstar on Board: filling the moral void of Clinton’s legacy

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Spanky
Have you been by an inner city school recently? How about Juvenile hall? Or look at the average recruit in the US military. A large swath are multiracial. And if you didn't notice the article explained how muslims in this country have become much more integrated.

The US assimilates immigrants better than any country in the world. No other country on the planet even comes close.

Don't know who you're arguing with here, Spank. I questioned your bit about why Muslims integrated less into Western culture than Latinos. You were throwing theories out there like home-ownership. My point was that the two cultures can't be compared at all and it is a lot easier for Latinos to "integrate" since the majority share the same religion as the majority of their host country. And yes, lots of people are multiracial, meaning what? Are we now talking about black/white integration? If not, I don't see how visiting an inner city school is going to prove the Muslim-integration points in the article (I thought you wrote that thing; was it someone else's article?). You're not going to be able to glance at a child and know if he's (A) 1/2 Dominican Republic and 1/2 Irish heritage; or (B) 1/2 African American and 1/2 Polish; (C) 1/3 South Asian and 1/3 Yanamomi with a Mom who eats monkey (NTTAWWT); or (D) 1/2 Appalachian and 1/2 Yemeni. The point is that Muslims may be integrating less into Western cultures than Latinos for reasons other than economics. The religious thing is huge. So is their having or accepting anti-Western sentiment. SD's cure-all of money, booze and chicks may work for him but the turd boys who took down our Towers had all that shit. The night before in fact. And Bin Laden has more wives than Bilmore has kids. And a fuck of a lot of money. And we all know how pro-Western that guy is. Same shit with the rich Arabs who dress Western style, live Western style and write checks to fund ulalating (hi Penske!) crazies with the strap-ons. There will always be an acceptance of violence (even among so-called moderate Arabs) against "Western Imperialists" even if the person becomes a Western Imperialist. Secretly, jihad and fatwas are appealing and romantic to the "moderate" Muslim set.

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[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Secretly, jihad and fatwas are appealing and romantic to the "moderate" Muslim set.

Yes, the elusive moderate radical-moderate-Islamics. The liberals favourite cause and most dear comrade (next to the RedChinese). The people that Clinton was willing to ensure another holocaust to create a country for.

When I think back in solemn remembrance of September 11 and the fallen American heroes the images that burn most fervently in my mind's eye are those of our moderate radical-moderate Islamic friends, who so obviously shared our pain and grief. Allahu akhbar!!!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Spanky
The AFL-CIO would never agree to this. But I agree with you. Free markets and economic growth are what the middle east needs. As soon as Mohammed is concerned about driving a nicer car than his neighbor Hassan all our troubles are over.

Free trade and free markets are the key. The problem is the Unions and the far left are in the way.

The Unions are dead. Who care what the AFL CIO thinks. Let them argue against developing a market driven detante with the Middle East. They can join Pat Buchanan and John Kerry in that coalition.

The Far Left is also dead. We don't have the money to indulge their Utopian nonsense anymore. We are tilting toward Milton Friedman's market-state. We cannot compete globally while spending lavish amounts of money to prop up people who aren't making it. Its a cruel reality we're better off facing and warnming people about very honestly than pretending doesn't exist.

The era of small govt is with us for good because we can't afford anything else. There's also been a societal shift. People don't care about the Great Society anymore because they have enough trouble just watching their own asses. We have to become a nimble competitive economy. We can't afford to worry about whether everyone is doing well anymore. We just don't have the time or cash to be so luxurious in our interests anymore.

I don't like this reality, but its reality, so whats the use of arguing with it. Complaining that we're being cruel to the domestic poor, or wringing our hands about need for more social engineering (read: bureacrats) is not going to slow down China or India.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The Unions are dead.

dissent. See the public schools. The Teachers' unions are alive and strong and ensuring the demise of our nation by marginalising the intellects and educations of thr masses.

Congrats Dimwits, your dumbing down of our morality has succeeded and now you are tackling more substantive areas.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
dissent. See the public schools. The Teachers' unions are alive and strong and ensuring the demise of our nation by marginalising the intellects and educations of thr masses.

Congrats Dimwits, your dumbing down of our morality has succeeded and now you are tackling more substantive areas.

I blame the Clintons.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I blame the Clintons.

they have a share, although not as large as the Kennedys, npi.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Penske_Account

Thanks for posting the ula lady again, with what is probably a very tasty little Middle Eastern dish in the foreground, close to my dinner time. I always get hungry when I see that shit -- I know it's gotta be some pita bread made that morning in the stone oven, very salty, lightly fried to perfection, dipped in a spicy sauce that likely contains hummous, eggplant and cilantro, all lovingly ground up to near-liquid. Goddamn I'm hungry.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Thanks for posting the ula lady again, with what is probably a very tasty little Middle Eastern dish in the foreground, close to my dinner time. I always get hungry when I see that shit -- I know it's gotta be some pita bread made that morning in the stone oven, very salty, lightly fried to perfection, dipped in a spicy sauce that likely contains hummous, eggplant and cilantro, all lovingly ground up to near-liquid. Goddamn I'm hungry.

2. [true story] Many of the closest friends and extended "family" from my youth were Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian ex-pats who owned Middle eastern delis and eateries where I dined quite often as a lad. Al fresco and otherwise. [/true story]

[Penske_Account]

secondary school teacher in Saudi Arabia was charged with "dubious ideology, mocking religion, saying the Jews were right, discussing the Gospel and preventing students from leaving class to wash for prayer," according to the Saudi newspaper Al-Madina.

The teacher, Mohammed Al-Harbi, was sentenced to 40 months in jail and 750 lashes for his "crimes". He was denounced by colleagues and students at his school.
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Word!

[Spanky]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The Unions are dead.

How I wish that were true. Those dead Unions just spent forty million dollars to defeat the initiatives in California.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Who care what the AFL CIO thinks.

Are large swath of the Democrat party dances to their tune. They are the only organization that can mobilize precinct walkers and volunteers on a consistent basis.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield Let them argue against developing a market driven detante with the Middle East. They can join Pat Buchanan and John Kerry in that coalition.

That coalition almost beat CAFTA.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield The Far Left is also dead. We don't have the money to indulge their Utopian nonsense anymore. We are tilting toward Milton Friedman's market-state. We cannot compete globally while spending lavish amounts of money to prop up people who aren't making it. Its a cruel reality we're better off facing and warnming people about very honestly than pretending doesn't exist.

Actually I disagree here. It is much cheaper to support somebody on welfare than it is to subsidize a job the economy doesn't demand. We have the money to keep the safety net and to retrain, we just don't have the money to subsidize failed industries indefinitely - Sugar is the perfect example.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield The era of small govt is with us for good because we can't afford anything else. There's also been a societal shift. People don't care about the Great Society anymore because they have enough trouble just watching their own asses. We have to become a nimble competitive economy. We can't afford to worry about whether everyone is doing well anymore. We just don't have the time or cash to be so luxurious in our interests anymore.

Actually, if we stay a nimble economy we can support the five percent out of work. But if we allow the Unions and the protectionists to turn us into a static economy we won't have the money to keep the safety net up.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I don't like this reality, but its reality, so whats the use of arguing with it. Complaining that we're being cruel to the domestic poor, or wringing our hands about need for more social engineering (read: bureacrats) is not going to slow down China or India.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Don't know who you're arguing with here, Spank. I questioned your bit about why Muslims integrated less into Western culture than Latinos. You were throwing theories out there like home-ownership. My point was that the two cultures can't be compared at all and it is a lot easier for Latinos to "integrate" since the majority share the same religion as the majority of their host country.

My point was that the US integrates muslims better than the Europeans. We integrate every ethnic and racial group better than the Europeans. Yes it easier to absorb hispanic, but we also absord Muslims.

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
And yes, lots of people are multiracial, meaning what? Are we now talking about black/white integration? If not, I don't see how visiting an inner city school is going to prove the Muslim-integration points in the article (I thought you wrote that thing; was it someone else's article?). You're not going to be able to glance at a child and know if he's (A) 1/2 Dominican Republic and 1/2 Irish heritage; or (B) 1/2 African American and 1/2 Polish; (C) 1/3 South Asian and 1/3 Yanamomi with a Mom who eats monkey (NTTAWWT); or (D) 1/2 Appalachian and 1/2 Yemeni. The point is that Muslims may be integrating less into Western cultures than Latinos for reasons other than economics. The religious thing is huge. So is their having or accepting anti-Western sentiment. SD's cure-all of money, booze and chicks may work for him but the turd boys who took down our Towers had all that shit. The night before in fact. And Bin Laden has more wives than Bilmore has kids. And a fuck of a lot of money. And we all know how pro-Western that guy is. Same shit with the rich Arabs who dress Western style, live Western style and write checks to fund ulalating (hi Penske!) crazies with the strap-ons. There will always be an acceptance of violence (even among so-called moderate Arabs) against "Western Imperialists" even if the person becomes a Western Imperialist. Secretly, jihad and fatwas are appealing and romantic to the "moderate" Muslim set.

Very few of the terrorists (almost none) were raised in the United States. Many of them were raised in Europe. Again - we integrate better. I said that we have many multiracial people because you said we did not (Intermarriage? Gee I wonder why there's been more intermarriage between Latinos and non-Latinos. ) The true test of absorbtion is marriage across cultures. We have much more of that here than in Europe. Muslims intermarry here more, Jews intermarry here more, ethnic groups intermarry more. It is all across the board in the United States.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
2. [true story] Many of the closest friends

I had a friend once.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
The true test of absorbtion is marriage across cultures. .

I have frequently wondered about the joys of sexxxing an islamic woman. I wonder if they are good, notwithstanding their diversified cultural hygienic standards (specifically but not limited to: no TP, but small pebbles).

Spank, was the Serb a moderate Islamic?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
I had a friend once.

Yes, but she sold you down the river with that Irving book recommendation.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I have frequently wondered about the joys of sexxxing an islamic woman. I wonder if they are good, notwithstanding their diversified cultural hygienic standards (specifically but not limited to: no TP, but small pebbles).

Spank, was the Serb a moderate Islamic?

If their undergarments are any indication, they are hot. In Saudi Arabia, I saw tons of areas in the markets where women in their Chador were buying really hot black lacey underthings. They were ALL buying them. They seem to get frumpy when they get older (especially without dentists) but they are among the most beautiful women in the world when young. Plus they have that whole belly dancing thing. And, Good God. Queen Rania:
I could think about her, in a non-Internet, non-platonic way, wearing little black lace thong panties. YMMV.

Spanky's dating a Moslem chick?