Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005. - Page 10

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 06-06-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Um, isn't this a good thing for the kids?

Damn bleeding heart conservatives.

ltl/fb · 06-06-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Oh, I see, you're kidding.

At what point do you think I was kidding? Oh, the part about fostering them with former employees. Yes, that was a joke.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 06-06-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Fuck the kids. Why should their pampered asses get special treatment? Why can't they live with a goddamn relative? Like RT's high school classmate. At least they won't end up in foster care, unlike many children of people who commit felonies and go to prison.

Aren't tragedies like this the reason God created prep schools?

Replaced_Texan · 06-06-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Did he deliver, or have they not even gone to trial yet, almost four years down the line?

Since Lay was indicted shortly after her deal was cemented, my guess is yes.

ltl/fb · 06-06-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Since Lay was indicted shortly after her deal was cemented, my guess is yes.

Indicted fine, did he cut his deal already? Or are we still waiting to see what the testimony from Fastow is?

sebastian_dangerfield · 06-06-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Did he deliver, or have they not even gone to trial yet, almost four years down the line?

Well, the Govt has a tough case. Skilling is dead. That one is easy. But the big dog, Lay, allegedly has a solid defense. The articles I've read suggest his doddering elder stateman act has a nugget of truth to it. I'll bet his lawyers are poring over the transcripts of Bernie Ebbers shitting the bed in his trial to make sure Ken makes none of the same mistakes.

Skilling, however, will rot longer than any white collar defendant in history. He can't even trade his testimony against Lay for a light sentence. Using Skilling would kill the govt's case and create sympathy for Lay.

Skilling's got nowwhere to point the finger. He. Is. Dead.

And he deserves it.

sgtclub · 06-06-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Damn bleeding heart conservatives.

I just don't understand the big deal. People cut deals all the time when they plead.

Replaced_Texan · 06-06-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Indicted fine, did he cut his deal already? Or are we still waiting to see what the testimony from Fastow is?

He plead guilty and has been out of jail for over a year since his plea. I'm guessing his deal has been cut. His sentence is upto ten years.

Hank Chinaski · 06-06-2005, 02:22 PM

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Yeah, the thing about the 5 months vs. a year was in the article.

Jesus fucking christ, though, that kind of pisses me off. All kinds of kids who get fucked because both parents go to jail and there's no money to cushion it -- and fat cats get to spread out their time so that their poor pampered baby kiddies don't have to pick which felon parent to visit in prison over the weekend. Fucking Fastows should have thought about their kids before they went and committed felonies.

Isn't anyone pissed that Enron's entire in-house legal isn't locked up for 5 years? Fat cats count on those guys to keep shit straight. It's the in house guys who should be locked up and throw away the key.

ltl/fb · 06-06-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
He plead guilty and has been out of jail for over a year since his plea. I'm guessing his deal has been cut. His sentence is upto ten years.

How is that possible? Lea Fastow's deal didn't get cut until July 2004, so how did Lay and Skilling have time to be indicted, cut a deal, do whatever time they did, and be out for a year?

Lay sounds like he's doing the Reagan/Bush defense on the arms for hostages stuff.

sgtclub · 06-06-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Isn't anyone pissed that Enron's entire in-house legal isn't locked up for 5 years? Fat cats count on those guys to keep shit straight. It's the in house guys who should be locked up and throw away the key.

Hank, as you well know, most lawyers are afraid of math.

sebastian_dangerfield · 06-06-2005, 02:31 PM

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Hank, as you well know, most lawyers are afraid of math.

Nobody wants to prosecute lawyers:

1. They're usually just yes men;

2. They create piles of CYA memos you have to get around (Belichick's TYCO case);

3. They're schooled in deflecting responsibility, so you can rarely, if ever, find them making a decision for anything;

4. You can't prosecute an entire department. You are on a budget.

Tyrone Slothrop · 06-06-2005, 02:35 PM

If growing herb in your own garden for your own use is interstate commerce, what isn't? I guess I'm with Justice Thomas on that one.

Hank Chinaski · 06-06-2005, 02:36 PM

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If growing herb in your own garden for your own use is interstate commerce, what isn't? I guess I'm with Justice Thomas on that one.

Drug use supports international terrorism.

Gattigap · 06-06-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Isn't anyone pissed that Enron's entire in-house legal isn't locked up for 5 years? Fat cats count on those guys to keep shit straight. It's the in house guys who should be locked up and throw away the key.

This zeal for burning in-house counsel at the stake without worrying about what might've actually happened in the interactions between the counsel and their client is why I suggested (last time you brought up this topic) that you repeat this in your next newsletter to your clients, who I'm sure would read this with interest. How'd that go, by the way?