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Old 09-15-2005, 03:46 PM   #136
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Sebby is a red herring. I was really thinking of you.
Jealousy becomes me after all. Sweet.
 
Old 09-15-2005, 03:46 PM   #137
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I know. I'm saying that if I were one of the girls, watching him pound his vodkas in that situation would be a turn-off.

(It would be different if he were already heading toward getting shit-faced at a party, and was charmingly loose in a Sebbyish sort of way, and by the time he realized he was going to get a threesome, he was already in that stage where his judgment was off and he kept ordering more drinks because that's the first stupid thing drunk people do.)
Different to criticize later or different as a turn-off? I'd think it's a turn-off to be with someone that unfunctionally plastered, no matter how or why they got there.
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You're officially senile.
Oddly, what he said kind of made sense to me.
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Different to criticize later or different as a turn-off? I'd think it's a turn-off to be with someone that unfunctionally plastered, no matter how or why they got there.
VERONICA
Typically male point of view.

DANTE
How do you figure?

VERONICA
You show some bedroom proficiency,
and you think you're gods. What
about what we do for you?

DANTE
Women? Women, as lovers, are all
basically the same: they just have
to be there.

VERONICA
"Be there?"

DANTE
Making a male climax is not all
that challenging: insert somewhere
close and preferably moist; thrust;
repeat.

VERONICA
How flattering.

DANTE
Now, making a woman cum...therein
lies a challenge.

VERONICA
Oh, you think so?

DANTE
A girl makes a guy cum, it's
standard. A guy makes a girl cum,
it's talent.

VERONICA
And I actually date you?

DANTE
Something wrong?
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Typically male point of view.

DANTE
How do you figure?

VERONICA
You show some bedroom proficiency,
and you think you're gods. What
about what we do for you?

DANTE
Women? Women, as lovers, are all
basically the same: they just have
to be there.

VERONICA
"Be there?"

DANTE
Making a male climax is not all
that challenging: insert somewhere
close and preferably moist; thrust;
repeat.

VERONICA
How flattering.

DANTE
Now, making a woman cum...therein
lies a challenge.

VERONICA
Oh, you think so?

DANTE
A girl makes a guy cum, it's
standard. A guy makes a girl cum,
it's talent.

VERONICA
And I actually date you?

DANTE
Something wrong?

Okay, yes, I should have said I'd find it a turn-off to be with a guy that unfunctionally plastered.
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Old 09-15-2005, 03:58 PM   #141
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Not really a choke. More like self-sabotage.

Either way, pathetic.

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Old 09-15-2005, 04:01 PM   #142
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Did she dump him just based upon that night? You said "reasons later."
There were other reasons, but they're not worth mentioning.

You don't think that was reason enough?

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And, ask yourself whether you would employ any of them if you were in-house?
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Old 09-15-2005, 04:02 PM   #144
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You're officially senile.
why? The golf thing is stretching the comparison, but then again, not really.

There are a couple of scenarios:

1. You have a not serious relationship. You have threesomes. No one really caress about feelings. Teh sex is good and interesting. Sooner or later the relationship breaks or not, but its all good one way or the other.

2. You have a relationship that at its core is not serious. You talk about sex with a third person. Something that gets said or done in the pursuit of such sex, offends one or the other and you break up. I posit that is not so much because of the sex or the pursuit of sex, but because the relationship was inherently flawed on other levels (possibly, probably, not quite truly open communication on what was going on with the sex).

3. You have a relationship that is serious at its core. You decide to open the sex part, but you do so (a) without fully exploring the range of feelings that result; and relatedly (b) without being fully committed to the idea that sex is just sex, akin to golf or any other physicial pursuit. That is a recipe for trouble.

4. You have a serious relationship. You decide, mutually, based on open communication and examination of your mutual feelings, to open the sex up. You agree that sex is just sex. You do it. Its fine. Like playing golf on a really good course other than your country club.

Of course there are permutations of all the above. Why is that analysis senile?

Also, disclaimer, I don't golf, I am just using that as an example.

Finally, I may have met in Chicago once and had this same argument. I was wearing a skirt. If so, please PM me so I can kill myself now. That conversation is too painful to repeat.
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Attempted threesome story.
Or the guy really didn't want it, ii.e. a subconcious short-circuit of the event.
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And, ask yourself whether you would employ any of them if you were in-house?
As what? If monitored, I think Penske could make a good receptionist. unless he's lying about the good looks.
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Oddly, what he said kind of made sense to me.
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Oddly, what he said kind of made sense to me.
I think being liquored up is no excuse for saying something that hurtful, even if it's to a woman who in theory accepts, as an intellectual matter, that her man may have sexual desires that don't involve her exclusively, and even if they both have acknowledged that fact by opening up their sex lives. It was a threesome, the whole idea was that they both participate, and I think what he said to her would make even the most secure person feel pretty profoundly rejected.

I think the very fact that he could bring himself to say that to his GF means it wasn't a "solid relationship."

Plus, I wonder, if the situation were a potential MFM and it was the GF who said she didn't want the BF involved at all, would this particular POV have been posted?
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There were other reasons, but they're not worth mentioning.

You don't think that was reason enough?

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I don't. Unless the relationship was terminal to start with.
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