Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
He had some?

as usual, you are not helping.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
huh. I don't even begin to know what that means.

exactly, but you needn't have posted the admission. res ipsa loquitor.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
exactly, but you needn't have posted the admission. res ipsa loquitor.

Why would I refrain? musa sapientum fixa est in aure.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Excellent summation. Bravo.

2. One thing I would like to add is that at the time of Jesus, Herod, and Josephus etc. everyone in the Levant - actually everyone in the Fertile Crescent spoke Aramaic. No one really knows why this language replaced all the other languages in the region it just did. The educated also spoke Greek, which was the language of the educated. In Egypt the masses spoke Aramaic, the rulers Greek (Ptolemy’s - descendants of Alexander's General) and the middle and upper classes spoke Coptic, which was close to the original Egyptian language but instead of using Hieroglyphs it used the Greek Script. When the Romans expelled the Jews in 57 A.D. this was a religious expulsion not an ethnic one. The Jews were kicked out but the other Aramaic speaking people were allowed to stay. All the lands that were conquered by the Arabs (the whole fertile crescent and North Africa) eventually adopted Arabic (including the Jews). So the Palestinians in Palestine are the same people that were there before they had just most had been converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language. The Jews that stayed in the Middle East also adopted Arabic. So the tension between the Sephardic Jews and the Palestinians is really a religious issue not a racial one. However the Jews that moved to Europe may be a different story. In 861 the ruler of the Khasars (Caspian Sea to Kiev) converted, and had his entire nation convert to Judaism. It has been alleged that the European Jews (the Ashkenazi) are really descendents of the Khazar conversion and therefore their conflict with the locals in Israel is an ethnic dispute. In addition, they have no real blood tie to the Palenstian lands. I have no idea how valid that is.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why would I refrain? musa sapientum fixa est in aure.

You can always tell when someone learned her latin from books insteand of speaking with the natives.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why would I refrain? musa sapientum fixa est in aure.

Original whiff! Well done, you are a whiffrole.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
2. One thing I would like to add is that at the time of Jesus, Herod, and Josephus etc. everyone in the Levant - actually everyone in the Fertile Crescent spoke Aramaic. No one really knows why this language replaced all the other languages in the region it just did. The educated also spoke Greek, which was the language of the educated. In Egypt the masses spoke Aramaic, the rulers Greek (Ptolemy’s - descendants of Alexander's General) and the middle and upper classes spoke Coptic, which was close to the original Egyptian language but instead of using Hieroglyphs it used the Greek Script. When the Romans expelled the Jews in 57 A.D. this was a religious expulsion not an ethnic one. The Jews were kicked out but the other Aramaic speaking people were allowed to stay. All the lands that were conquered by the Arabs (the whole fertile crescent and North Africa) eventually adopted Arabic (including the Jews). So the Palestinians in Palestine are the same people that were there before they had just most had been converted to Islam and adopted the Arabic language. The Jews that stayed in the Middle East also adopted Arabic. So the tension between the Sephardic Jews and the Palestinians is really a religious issue not a racial one. However the Jews that moved to Europe may be a different story. In 861 the ruler of the Khasars (Caspian Sea to Kiev) converted, and had his entire nation convert to Judaism. It has been alleged that the European Jews (the Ashkenazi) are really descendents of the Khazar conversion and therefore their conflict with the locals in Israel is an ethnic dispute. In addition, they have no real blood tie to the Palenstian lands. I have no idea how valid that is.

you forgot the long ago history that Bush told the jews to kill all the Egyptian boys.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you forgot the long ago history that Bush told the jews to kill all the Egyptian boys.

And then Mel Gibson told the Jews to kill Jesus. And that's why I'll never get to join the Onwentsia Club.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by baltassoc
B) It's amazing how in the face of all those horrible things the Palestinians did over the years, Israel did neither nothing to provoke them nor retaliated with one ounce of excessive force.

In the same way that the US must have some blame for the events of 9/11?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sgtclub
In the same way that the US must have some blame for the events of 9/11?

I knew you would make sense of this.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I knew you would make sense of this.

I don't think Balt is anti-semitic, just ill-informed. The far left has had an antisemtic bent for decades now, which is attributable to their sponsors, the Soviet Communists.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
In the same way that the US must have some blame for the events of 9/11?

Are you talking about how the clinton Administration learned of Atta's cell but Reno's wall prevented any action from being taking?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't think Balt is anti-semitic, just ill-informed. The far left has had an antisemtic bent for decades now, which is attributable to their sponsors, the Soviet Communists.

I don't think Balt is anti-semitic either, but I do think that the leftists may have slipped him some kool-ade.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Spanky
Penske to try and elevate this discussion. I would like you to answer some questions:

1) The main reason why the UN equated Zionism with racism is that any Jew anywhere in the world can move to Israel and become a citizen. However, any muslim palestinian who lived in Israel proper prior to its creation may not move back to their home. In addition, none of their decendants may either. If this is not a racist (or at least bigoted policy) why not?

Their ethnicity does not factor in the equation. They can only move back if they have health insurance.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Are you talking about how the clinton Administration learned of Atta's cell but Reno's wall prevented any action from being taking?

It was rhetorical. Please keep up, hippie.