Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by purse junkie
To be fair, it's not mine either. But on the "would I rather listen to a CD of cackling hyenas for an hour instead and does he repulse me more than Jack Nicholson" test, Mick Jagger doesn't fare so well anyhow.

Speaking of whom, JN's latest babe is apparently Amanda Peet. Gross (them as a couple, not Amanda Peet).

Are you saying that current fat aged Jack is nasty, or do you mean Jack through the ages?

If you mean Jack through the ages has always been nasty, you're fucking nuts. Hell, I'd fuck Jack circa Easy Rider and Five Easy Pieces.

Amanda peet was hot as balls until she took her shirt off in the Whole Nine Yards. Her boobs were not becoming a woman with a face that gorgeous.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I s'pose a board of lawyers is not the best place to gain an understanding of what the people complaining about this are thinking.

Well, if one thought one was morally right, then one could become outraged at being prosecuted. It's the same thinking process that expresses outrage at the prosecution of any act that is generally immoral but situational moral (at least arguably) -- the poor man stealing bread to eat; the battered wife killing her husband.

If one genuinely believes that downloading music is a morally justifiable response to record companies' refusal to price music "affordably"/"reasonably" and/or package it song by song, or that sharing through napster/kazaa is no different than sending your girlfriend a mixed tape, then sure, you'll be indignant that someone is prosecuting you for "innocent" conduct.

"But officer, I was only 10 mph over the limit; it's not like I'm an ax murderer"


and just to soften things up

and one for paigow:

[Jack Manfred]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
But what's the deal with every city having Pride Day on a different weekend. It feels like a bit of a cheat to me. Is it the same 100,000 people going from city to city all summer long? I'd be much more impressed if they all happened on the same day. Is there a hardcore batch of Pride Day-ites? Is each city's Pride Day comprised mostly of locals, or ringers? Not that any of this matters, but it's just something that crossed my mind this summer.

There's something like a Pride Circuit in America. A lot of vendors go from parade to parade peddling their wares. Some go from parade to parade peddling... something else. If you sell rainbow keychains for a living, you'd better set up a booth at every Pride parade.

They used to set up a bunch of vendor booths right outside Hastings during Pride weekend. (Maybe they still do.) You can get almost anything with a rainbow on it. The larger question is, why would you want to?

I had a friend who went to Santa Cruz back in the early 90's. Apparently, one sorority girl saw a vendor selling a rainbow keychain and bought one, thinking it was cute. All of her sisters thought it was cute too, so they bought them. Even some fraternity guys bought them until they figured out the significance of the rainbow.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
If one genuinely believes that downloading music is ...no different than sending your girlfriend a mixed tape, then sure, you'll be indignant that someone is prosecuting you for "innocent" conduct.

Yo, Burger meister, you're going to have trouble with this one. I'm afraid that repackaging for distribution thing is really much more serious than a little downloading for personal use. Yet you have no problems with it...

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well, if one thought one was morally right, then one could become outraged at being prosecuted. It's the same thinking process that expresses outrage at the prosecution of any act that is generally immoral but situational moral (at least arguably) -- the poor man stealing bread to eat; the battered wife killing her husband.

If one genuinely believes that downloading music is a morally justifiable response to record companies' refusal to price music "affordably"/"reasonably" and/or package it song by song, or that sharing through napster/kazaa is no different than sending your girlfriend a mixed tape, then sure, you'll be indignant that someone is prosecuting you for "innocent" conduct.

"But officer, I was only 10 mph over the limit; it's not like I'm an ax murderer"


and just to soften things up

and one for paigow:

Stealing music isn't wrong until you make up for all the times you've been ripped off by record companies. I can steal $20K more of music and still be morally in the clear.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Yo, Burger meister, you're going to have trouble with this one. I'm afraid that repackaging for distribution thing is really much more serious than a little downloading for personal use. Yet you have no problems with it...

Were you one of my law school classmates? The one's who assumed every argument I made represented my personal views on the matter?

Hint: I used the third person for a reason.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
While there are several on the FB who would gladly provide you with the Brazilian Persian, we cannot in good conscience let you wear a white suit. WAAAAAAY too International Male for you.

I think it depends on where you are and the fabric of which the suit is made. I think a white linen suit, worn with a white shirt and no tie would be kind of cool for daytime in South Beach, Puerto Rico or Hawaii. But the suit in that picture looks way too heavy. And the shirt puts it well over the international male threshhold.

TM

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I guess I'm just at a loss to understand why people seem to find it so shocking that the RIAA might want to enforce the rights of music copyright holders -- even to the point of suing consumers, as a last resort.

I think that a lot of people may not realize the extent of the problem for the music labels. The radio stations are giving the music away for free, anyways, so what's the big deal? Hell, I used to (badly) record music off the radio all the time when I was a kid. No one sued me for that, even if I rerecorded the (bad quality, cut off in the front with the DJ talking over it) song and gave it to my friends. I used to tape CDs all the time and give the tapes to family members. I'd spend hours making mixed tapes and trading them with friends. What's the big deal?

I think that people think back to their own actions with music, and don't really think what they did was something that would generate a law suit. They see the trading of music on-line as the next logical step to something that's been going on for years. The fact that technology makes it that much easier to trade music with a huge number of people isn't as relevant to the general public. Especially if they're getting free stuff that the radio stations would have given away anyway.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Stealing music isn't wrong until you make up for all the times you've been ripped off by record companies. I can steal $20K more of music and still be morally in the clear.

So you'll forgive the non-paying client who says "well, I know I paid you $20k last month, but I don't think I've gotten that much value from the work, so keep working for free"?

Personally, I haven't paid more for a CD than I thought it was worth to me at the time. Nor have I purchased anything else that wasn't worth it to me at the time. I'm the guy all economists assume everyone is like, apparently.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Some white things are cool.

I think the guy who pisses and moans about people quoting entire posts when they are responding only to portions should learn how to edit a photo out of a post.

Or get NFH's grandma to do it. She's not getting laid, so she should have the time.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think it depends on where you are and the fabric of which the suit is made. I think a white linen suit, worn with a white shirt and no tie would be kind of cool for daytime in South Beach, Puerto Rico or Hawaii. But the suit in that picture looks way too heavy. And the shirt puts it well over the international male threshhold.

TM

Pssst... this is the url for the suit that atticus linked http://www.internationalmale.com/Han...ges/i893ux.jpg

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) Nor have I purchased anything else that wasn't worth it to me at the time. .

One word: Government ser . . . .

OK, two words: Government Services.

[tmdiva]

The adjectival form of "copyright" is not "copywritten."

tm

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Were you one of my law school classmates? The one's who assumed every argument I made represented my personal views on the matter?

Hint: I used the third person for a reason.

I hope every person aspires to be like Horton. 100%. And you want to get rid of that apostrophe and s in "one's", too, BTW.

The real issue on the RIAA thing is the statutory damages clause. Look, downloading a little music may technically be criminal, but that's not RIAA's business and the DA gets to use prosecutorial discretion to deal with it appropriately. What RIAA is doing is using the statutory damages provision designed to protect against commercial infringement against a bunch of folks who are, without making a dime, sharing music that RIAA's backers also let go out over the public airwaves, encourage us all to sing, hum or otherwise massacre, and generally try to inundate us with. And now RIAA wants them all to pay dearly.

OK, I downloaded "Billy, Don't Be a Hero". Here's the buck.

:band:

[Jack Manfred]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm supposed to get the New Pornographers, I know, but the whole Flaming Lips debacle has me gunshy. Should I get "Electric Version" or "Mass Romantic"?

The consensus is that "Mass Romantic" has the edge over "Electric Version." The songs "Mass Romantic" and "Letter to an Occupant" are on "Mass Romantic" and are two of the best singles of the past 5 years. I think "Electric Version" is a more cohesive album, and it has more Neko Case backing vocals in the mix.

Buy "Mass Romantic" today. Get "Electric Version" next week.

There was another record store closing up in the Bay Area when I visited my family. I'll post the details after my credit card cools down.