New Fashion Board 10-3-2003 - 11-7-2003

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Asking a Jew to take communion is silly. The folks running the service clearly didn't know what to do and were misguidedly trying to be polite. Its sorts like when I'm at a Jewish wedding or funeral and they ask me to wear the yarmulka... I always politely decline out of respect.

Taking communion and wearing a yarmulke are not exactly the same level of religious observance.

One is a fundamental belief (taking communion) and the other is a simple gesture reminding the wearer that there "something above him" (i.e., God). There is no "commandment" to wear a yarmulke; it is simply a tradition. Communion is a completely different animal.

(I'm sure this has been said already -- Sorry; I'm just catching up.)

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Originally posted by purse junkie
I would guess that the same people who would call someone a "Jewess" are the same ones who have never actually met a Jew, honestly believe we killed Jesus, and are convinced that Jesus converted.

You're kidding, right? No one really believes this, do they? What, exactly, would he have converted to? There was no such thing as "Christianity" until centuries after his death.

I once had a conversation with a Seventh Day Adventist (is that how you spell that?) who did not even accept the fact that Jesus was Jewish. I thought that was fairly well-accepted, but I guess not.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
A classic post.

I love this new trend on the FB. When you don't have shit to say, go with "classic" or "typical" or whatever. But it sure is fun. Classic. Look! I can do it too!

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Did I say anything to defend Pedro? No, you attacked the man, I pointed out the inconsistencies in your attack if simultaneously defending the bullpen bullies. What I talked about was the incident in the bullpen. Man, the cleat marks mean he was on the ground getting stomped, and there were several of them and one of him, but you want Pedro to step aside? Your guys handled it like bullies.

Ah, yez. We handled it like bullies. When the first base coach was attacked by the lunatic earlier this year, did they act like bullies when the whole team jumped him and beat the shit out of him? I don't think so. That is what happens when fights occur between a player and non players in sports. Teams will protect their teamates and if you didn't see what happened and your teamate is fighting with a civilian, that civilian will catch a beating from any and every teamate. If you think for a second that the Sox wouldn't have all jumped in if they saw Timlin fighting with a non player (or a player for that matter), you don't know a fucking thing about sports.

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
But what I really love is the notion that you shouldn't argue with me if I disagree with you.

No. Clearly you misread. Arguing with me about what happened in the bullpen is one thing. Arguing about Pedro's moronitude is another. It shows me that you are irrational and engaging you is pointless.

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy Like I said, a classic.

Like I said, jackass.

TM

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall


Ah, yez. We handled it like bullies. When the first base coach was attacked by the lunatic earlier this year, did they act like bullies when the whole team jumped him and beat the shit out of him?


TM

Please don't bring up southside Chicago fans - in their defense I have, well...nothing really at all to say. They're about as bad as they get.

It's lonely being a Sox fan on the north side of Chicago...

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Clearly you misread. Arguing with me about what happened in the bullpen is one thing. Arguing about Pedro's moronitude is another. It shows me that you are irrational and engaging you is pointless.

My arguments have been all about the bullpen. It is what has earned the Yankees the name of bullies. And saying that players beating up non-players is the way of the game is a very bullyish attitude.

The fight on the field, hey, Pedro did start the thing by throwing at folks, which is moronic and shows he has a hot temper. So what? Clemens doesn't? A spat on the field was probably inevitable this series.

But if Zim wants in on the fight, which he did, why the hell should Pedro deny him?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
You've had two days to think about the perfect reaction. Pedro had a few seconds. In that amount of time, he made the right decision.

You assume that I came up with that after two days of deep thought? Brilliant. I actually couldn't believe at the time that he didn't laugh at Zimmer and move to his left.

It was clear the moment I watched it that that's what he should have done. Either that, or wrap him up. No need to try to hurt him. The guy is a fucking geezer. Would you knock out a 92 year old man who was coming at you at 1 mile per hour because you needed to defend yourself? Good God.

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? He doesn't get his "assed kicked", but he let's an old geezer throw a few punches at him while leaving his hands at his sides. No professional athlete would let this happen. Maybe your average lawyer would, but a real man would not.

You are detached from reality. The scenario you just described is comical. There is no need to let Zimmer punch him. There is also no need to fling him as hard as he could to the ground. I don't think any other baseball players would have acted the way he did.

TM

[pony_trekker]

Here's my question:

If the bullpen incident happened in NY, or for that matter, any other city, other than that rube hick fucking shithole of a city filled to the brim with dicklicking drunken motherfucking assholes, is there any question that the "groundskeeper" would have been tossed? Is there any question security or the police would have intervened before the players did?

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Oh and it's not like those fucking hick rube asshole Boston police would lie or anything to get that shithole city one step closer to getting rid of the curse. Those cocksucking scumbaig pig fucks are lying just to give the sox an advantage. Nelson just should have skulled that groundskeeper with a fastball when he wasn't looking. Whoops. Slipped.

Eloquent. I can see why New Yorkers feel superior.

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Originally posted by taxwonk
If you are really a beginner at the cooking game, or if you are a decent cook who wants to know more about the science and technique of cooking, I recomend you buy "I'm Just Here for the Food," by Alton Brown.

Alton Brown ROCKS!! (And I recently bought an autographed copy of his latest book when he was "guest starring" at the local Barnes & Noble a couple of weeks ago.) I heart Alton Brown.

[Penske_Account]

Hypnosis-I did it. One time. Goal was to create a mental focus swtich that I could turn on when the going got rough. It worked...I ended up getting lei'd, if you get my drift.

Wines: I'm big into Oregon Pinots, Washington Reds-Sinnead and Own Roe are 2 related craft wine makers that make stuff (incl. some noce Pinot Gris and Gerwurtztraminner (sic)) that I love. Hard to find outside of the PacNW, but maybe via samswines.com. Not cheap, but I'm worth it. Sean Thackery California reds-another craft wine maker I love. Champagne-Bollinger vintage.

Food, exercise, weight loss blah blah-essentially I agree with TM. If you really want to lose weight, limit yourself to a diet of 4 Power bars and a multi vitamin a day and do about 2.5 hours of cardio and .5 hour of weights. You'll lose lots of weight in 30-60 days. Just suck it up.

Yankees -Sox-I have no dogs in this fight as (1) I generally couldn't care less about MLB-other than I go to 2-3 games a year as a family outing thing, but if baseball fell off the face of the earth tomorrow, I would go to 2-3 movies or museums or zoos or parks in place of games as a family outing; (2) in my opinion its a game not a sport; (3) when I was a fan, I hated both teams; however my thought is I would have liked to see Pedro martinez kick Don Zimmers ass and then have his ass kicked by some Yankee and then have the fans riot and have everyone kick everyone else's asses. And then I would like to see a cowboy [shoved] up all of their kicked asses. And then I would like to see a death match between Steinbrenner and Luchino with the winner facing off against Trump.

In other news, I wore my skirt to travel this past weekend and was made to go behind the privacy curtain for a special security check. NTTAWWT.

My comeback has officially started. Let the smackdown begin.

Is it just me or has the quality of posting improved by at least 53% since PLF quit? Thank freaking god we kicked his sorry ass to the curb.

Penske

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Here's my question:

If the bullpen incident happened in NY, or for that matter, any other city, other than that rube hick fucking shithole of a city filled to the brim with dicklicking drunken motherfucking assholes, is there any question that the "groundskeeper" would have been tossed? Is there any question security or the police would have intervened before the players did?

He was tossed. To the ground. Where he was stomped on with metal cleats. Repeatedly.

There really wasn't a need to intervene until the emasculated bullpen tried to pulverize the groundskeeper, champ. You generally don't have to have security/cops 'intervene' when an employee/fan cheers, unless something further occurs.

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
On another note, does anyone know of any family-friendly (small children) dog breeds that also are security oriented (German Shephard)?

ROTTWEILERS!!! (No, seriously.)

We used to have two dogs, a labrador and the rottweiler. The lab bit my then-2-year-old son on the face, so she went to live with my sister (no, she really did -- that's not a euphemism for euthanism).

However, the rottweiler could not be sweeter. My infant son crawls all over her and she doesn't bat an eyelash. She is very submissive around small dogs, but get her around a bit dog and she is quite frightening.

Maybe it's just my particular rottweiler, but she is FANTASTIC with the kids.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
My arguments have been all about the bullpen. It is what has earned the Yankees the name of bullies. And saying that players beating up non-players is the way of the game is a very bullyish attitude.

Classic. Pedro trying to bean Garcia for hitting him and threatening to bean other players combined with Manny attempting to rush the mound because of a pitch that was literally two feet from his head isn't bullying?

And if you took "beating up non-players is the way of the game" from what I just wrote, I've only got three words for you: Crack is wack. My point was that any and every team, including your loser Sox would have reacted the same exact way if they saw a teamate fighting with a non player. That is not the way of sports. That's the reality of sports. You are choosing to ignore that reality and are labeling the Yankees as bullies for behavior they would be just as guilty of.

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
The fight on the field, hey, Pedro did start the thing by throwing at folks, which is moronic and shows he has a hot temper. So what? Clemens doesn't? A spat on the field was probably inevitable this series.

I already admitted Clemens was insane. But that takes nothing away from Pedro's bullshit cowardice. And you saying "So what?" shows me that you are blinded by the loser's loyalty mentality that is so prevelant in Boston.

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy But if Zim wants in on the fight, which he did, why the hell should Pedro deny him?

Again, because he's an old man, you idiot. If your 8-toothed, smelly, geriatric momma rushed me for calling you a loser, I wouldn't bitch slap her just because she wanted in on the fight. I would back off, tell her to calm down and then bitch slap you.

TM

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Yankees -Sox-I have no dogs in this fight as (1) I generally couldn't care less about MLB-other than I go to 2-3 games a year as a family outing thing, but if baseball fell off the face of the earth tomorrow, I would go to 2-3 movies or museums or zoos or parks in place of games as a family outing; (2) in my opinion its a game not a sport; (3) when I was a fan, I hated both teams; however my thought is I would have liked to see Pedro martinez kick Don Zimmers ass and then have his ass kicked by some Yankee and then have the fans riot and have everyone kick everyone else's asses. And then I would like to see a cowboy [shoved] up all of their kicked asses. And then I would like to see a death match between Steinbrenner and Luchino with the winner facing off against Trump.

That would be cool. Might even make me a baseball fan. Or at least interested enough to watch the Sportscenter highlights of the melee.

Agree with Gwincky - add hockey style fighting and you might even have a sport there.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by dtb
One is a fundamental belief (taking communion) and the other is a simple gesture reminding the wearer that there "something above him" (i.e., God).

While I have agreed with you on the yarmulke outcome, if this is actually the reason for asking all people to cover their heads I would have to change my mind. Asking someone to acknowledge even symbolically that another's (or perhaps any) God is "above" him is not OK. That's like curtsying to the british queen - americans don't acknowledge subjection to her, so it is inappropriate for us to do it. However, it is entirely appropriate to expect us to show her respect as a head of state. (Actually, better example - it would be like expecting non-practitioners to kneel during prayers.)

Covering one's head as a general sign of respect to the other participants in the religious service, rather like asking them not to dress like sluts for services, is fine. Asking people to cover their heads as a sign of acknowledgement of or subjection to a God they do not worship is not. The respect owed by the visitor is to the worshippers, not their God.