Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Hello?!?!

I thought you had one or more children. My mistake.

ETA, your edit was quick but NOT QUICK ENOUGH.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I thought you had one or more children. My mistake.

ETA, your edit was quick but NOT QUICK ENOUGH.

Yeh, I was trying to think of how to work yet another poster's sock into it. Damn.

[sgtclub]

I am a little bit confused. Is no one on the left following the hostile offer for Disney? I have yet to see one post about how the government should be regulating the industry, so either no one is following or the LDE has started a mass conversion.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I am a little bit confused. Is no one on the left following the hostile offer for Disney? I have yet to see one post about how the government should be regulating the industry, so either no one is following or the LDE has started a mass conversion.

What's LDE? They all collude and stuff anyway so what matter if all are owned by the same thing? Need to check out the Mars pictures to see if that might be a good place to move.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I am a little bit confused. Is no one on the left following the hostile offer for Disney? I have yet to see one post about how the government should be regulating the industry, so either no one is following or the LDE has started a mass conversion.

After years of thinking Disney owned everything (starting with the minds of most five year olds), it is rather amusing to see them bought and sold like cattle.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I am a little bit confused. Is no one on the left following the hostile offer for Disney? I have yet to see one post about how the government should be regulating the industry, so either no one is following or the LDE has started a mass conversion.

Having read The Da Vinci Code, I just find the whole idea of a hostile takeover of Disney kinda funny.

ETA: But if those cable fuckers so much as change a hair on Kim Possible's head, I will fucking end them.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch


ETA: But if those cable fuckers so much as change a hair on Kim Possible's head, I will fucking end them.

They won't change it. They'll just refuse to sell it to directv. but in happier news, we'll all be seeing a lot more of Alan Iverson on ESPN. And not just as a replacement for the Playmakers.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Picking up on a point Ty made a few days ago -- talking about the upswing in agitation and support for the rights of gays to "Marry" or at least enter into civil unions with all of the rights appurtaining thereto :

I saw mention of this in the paper today, reflecting two "victories" for gay rights in the Commonwealth of Virginia -- a very conservative state.

(a) The Virginia House of Delegates (lower body -- more conservative) -- passed legislation which would _permit_ private employers to offer health insurance benefits to the same sex partners of employees. The bill passed 50-49 (with support from some Republicans). The same bill died last year in committee.

(b) The House of Delegates also rejected legislation which would have excluded same-sex and unmarried folks from participating in a state-subsidized mortgege loan program. This bill was rejected 54-44. (The "no" votes were not all motivated by support for gay rights.)

This same body last week passed a bill reaffirming the Commonwealth's ban on gay marriage.

So . . . I think that these votes reflect shifting opinions in "Mainstream" society, and provide a decent snapshot of the debate -- although I find it remarkable that a bill almost passed which would have forbidden employers from offering whatever health benefits they choose.

S_A_M

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
So . . . I think that these votes reflect shifting opinions in "Mainstream" society, and provide a decent snapshot of the debate -- although I find it remarkable that a bill almost passed which would have forbidden employers from offering whatever health benefits they choose.

Myself, I don't think this reflects any change in mainstream thought so much as it reflects how mainstream thought is now being taken into account. I think the virulent anti-gay crowd has monopolized the debate until now, but we're finally seeing that people are more accepting than was previously made apparent. More and more conservative "leaders" are now being made aware that they cannot pander to the bigots in safety - because the mainstream is no longer willing to just shut up about the issue and let them.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

I know that this is kind of old news, but --

Denials from both parties -- plus she was never an intern for or otherwise an employee of Kerry -- plus she did not "flee to Africa" at Kerry's insistence (but instead visiting fiance's parents in Kenya).

She apparently dated Kerry's campaign finance director for a while. He's been an aide of Kerry's for about 6 years.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-144675c.html



S_A_M

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I know that this is kind of old news, but --

I'm just going to wait on this one. Drudge appears to still like the story.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I am a little bit confused. Is no one on the left following the hostile offer for Disney? I have yet to see one post about how the government should be regulating the industry, so either no one is following or the LDE has started a mass conversion.

Us lefties who own stock in Disney are not unhappy about what its price has done in the last week.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Us lefties who own stock in Disney are not unhappy about what its price has done in the last week.

Greed is good.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by sgtclub
You should realize that you have done neither. The money you spend at safeway is insignificant given safeway's size. Unless you organize all of the people in your neighborhood not to spend money at safeway, your acts as a consumer will have zero effect.

Well, that's what they're trying to do, get us all to boycott the place.

Question for you: assuming the money you fail to spend at safeway would have an effect, aren't you also hurting the replacement workers? And doesn't that put a guy like you in a bit of a catch 22? Do you support the down trodden worker that has a job, or the down trodden worker that doesn't.* Or do you presume that labor members are more deserving than non?

*And you can't answer, "I would make safeway hire all of them."

[edited for spelling]

I think I would support the replacement worker less because their employment was at the direct expense of another. Unlike the admin (gratuitous cheap shot alert) I'd like to see more people working. I don't think it has to do with whether I support union members over nonunionized folks.

Aside from that, my understanding is that the picketers aren't even from here, they're from Southern Cal (I'm in the Greater SF area). So it's not really replacement workers that I'm hurting. At least, not local replacement workers...maybe the ones in southern cal. So anyway, I think my guilt can be overcome. I just don't like feeling guilty about these things when all I want to do is buy some asparagus. I blame the Pope for my overformed guilt index.

Programming note of the day:
Switching gears somewhat, I saw a mildly entertaining show about the rise of the 24 hour news channels called "Feeding the Beast" or something like that on the Trio channel last night. Fox News didn't want to be interviewed directly for the show so they were stuck culling some interviews that Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch had done in the past for quotes, but all in all it was pretty good. The shit-eating grin that Ted Turner was wearing as he explained liberal media bias by saying that while the liberal reporters see slums and tragedy and pain all the time the conservative news business owners "just go to fundraisers for George W Bush" was friggin priceless. And Mary Matalin had some really good quotes including one about how the flyover states needed an outlet like Fox News to focus on them. All in all it was pretty cool.

Anyway I think Trio is one of those networks that plays like 6 programs on continuous loop so if you get that channel you may be able to see it at some point. However if Janeane Garofalo makes you ill you may want to avoid it...they give her the floor a few too many times.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I am a little bit confused. Is no one on the left following the hostile offer for Disney? I have yet to see one post about how the government should be regulating the industry, so either no one is following or the LDE has started a mass conversion.

Nobody's converting because of me, I can guarantee you that.

Since Fox already bought Directv, isn't this question already asked and answered? Vertical merger, limits on market concentration in any one space, etc.?

I'm just enjoying watching Eisner have to squirm a little. He seemed so pompous when he was responding to the Disney heir a few months ago.