Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Puft Daddy
bitch please. Two different things entirely. Two words which happened to be spelled the same way, albeit pronounced differently. One is a slur, the other isn't. If you checked the etymolgy (sp), you'd find that they're derived from different places.

My quick dictionary check says:

Gook:

noun: a disparaging term for an Asian person (especially for North Vietnamese soldiers in the Vietnam War)

noun: any thick messy substance

As a practical matter, that ain't gonna work. The original meaning was the thick, messy substance, but it got replaced. The danger here is, you open the door to "you fuckin' ( insert choice racial/religious epithet here )! - oh, I mean the OLD definition, which is "a knurled grommet protector"".

Just not workable.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Wow - that's scary.
Next question...is it giz, or jizz or gizz, or gism, or jism?

Reminds me of the only funny moment ever on "This Old House," when Steve asked the homeowner whether she had difficulty cleaning the "spooge" off the tops of her open-plan kitchen's cabinets.

Uh, Steve, that's what we call "a term of art" . . . .

[Edited to say apparently I already told this story on the old board in response to Toaster Man's take on people who jerk off in health club steam rooms.]

[Socking_Up]

Originally posted by bilmore
As a practical matter, that ain't gonna work. The original meaning was the thick, messy substance, but it got replaced. The danger here is, you open the door to "you fuckin' ( insert choice racial/religious epithet here )! - oh, I mean the OLD definition, which is "a knurled grommet protector"".

Just not workable.

Couldn't disagree more. Context makes it workable. You're not going to use 'gook' in interchangable situations - If you're referring to the gook in between the tiles in your shower or you're kibbitzing about sex and say you're going to give her the gook, you're clearly not talking about a person of asian descent.

And if you think the original meaning of 'gook' has been replaced with the racist meaning, you need to stop spending all your time with WWII vets.

Edited to say that I'm drawing a complete blank on other epithets that have previous non-racial meanings at the moment. N-word, nope. S-word, nope. WB-word, nope ... Okay, chink has multiple meanings, but that's the only one I can think of.

Further edited to say that you may no longer refer to any yard tool as a 'hoe', the same being degrading to women.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by bilmore
As a practical matter, that ain't gonna work. The original meaning was the thick, messy substance, but it got replaced. The danger here is, you open the door to "you fuckin' ( insert choice racial/religious epithet here )! - oh, I mean the OLD definition, which is "a knurled grommet protector"".

Just not workable.

Oh, please. If I call someone "a fucking faggot" it's pretty clear I don't mean "bundle of sticks." Just like if I say "your Honor, can I have some pussy" I can't later pretend I was asking to pet her cat.

As a practical matter, one can tell the meaning from the context, pretty reliably.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Socking_Up
And if you think the original meaning of 'gook' has been replaced with the racist meaning, you need to stop spending all your time with WWII vets.

Bad "gook" originated in 1899 as military slang for "Filipino" during the insurrection there. It's supposebly from a native word. Extended over time to include "any Pacific Islander" (1940s), "Korean" (1950s), "Vietnamese" and "any Asian" (1960s).

I'll take back what I said about Kevin Smith if the Fletch movie is any good. Jason Lee is an excellent Fletch, though I would hardly call him a "choice" in this context.

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Reality TV Shows

Paradise Hotel - Is improving as the original cast members are slowly removed. They had become very cliquey and are reacting viscerally to their removal as if they had some right to stay. I want someone to punch Amy now almost as much as someone needs to punch Toni. The group now is split pretty evenly between new and old and that is making for a lot of fighting and court intrique. That said, I still don't know what the fuck they have offered these people to make them want to be the last couple reclining poolside at the end of the summer. They fight for it, they cry about it, but it looks boring and repetitive to me.

Your correspondent in boxers drinking red wine on the couch,
LessinSF

I think your idea of having a special appearance by Sunny Garcia to smack Toni (and now Amanda) up side the head is a fine one. The original group people act like a bunch of drunken high school kids who are in the popular kids clique. I'm not sure there IS any incentive for them to be there besides getting paid (I assume there is some remuneration) to drink, lie in the sun and fool around with each other. Doesn't sound like such a bad gig, eh?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
I think your idea of having a special appearance by Sunny Garcia to smack Toni (and now Amanda) up side the head is a fine one. The original group people act like a bunch of drunken high school kids who are in the popular kids clique. I'm not sure there IS any incentive for them to be there besides getting paid (I assume there is some remuneration) to drink, lie in the sun and fool around with each other. Doesn't sound like such a bad gig, eh?

Are you talking about the FB or some TV show? I guess it must be TV if there's a paid part. Or the old FB, with the original group people/clique/paid.

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Are you talking about the FB or some TV show? I guess it must be TV if there's a paid part. Or the old FB, with the original group people/clique/paid.

Well, I meant the TV show but if the shoe fits...

[NotFromHere]

ESPN reports on new slogans for this fall...

Arizona Cardinals: "At Least It Will Be A Dry 3-13."

Atlanta Falcons: "Helping Displaced Northerners Avoid Truck-Related Sports Since 1966."

Baltimore Ravens: "Are You Ready For Some Futbol-Like Scores?"

Buffalo Bills: "Knock, Knock? Who's There? Drew Bledsoe. Drew Bledsoe Who? Drew Bledsoe Much From A Hit In The Pocket That He Passed Out, So, Like, The Least You Could Do Is Buy A Four Game Ticket Plan."

Chicago Bears: "Keep Telling Yourself Last Season Was Just A Fluke -- Just Like You Told Yourself You'd Travel For A Year And Then Go To College."

Cincinnati Bengals: "Only 367,200 Minutes 'Till We Make Our Selection."

Cleveland Browns: "You Don't Live In Cincinnati, You Live In Cleveland ... So Let The Potentially Crippling Projectile Objects Fly!"

Dallas Cowboys: "As Seen Last Year On The Popular HBO Series, Oz."

Denver Broncos: "Hey Look, We've Got Plummer's Butt."

Detroit Lions: "New Coach. New Beginnings. New Horizons Of Unfulfillment And Dissatisfaction."
Green Bay Packers: "Millions Of Animals Were Harmed In The Making Of This Team Nickname."

Houston Cows: "We Still Have That New Carr Smell."

Indianapolis Colts: "Remember: You Can't Spell Indianapolis Without 'No D.'"

Jacksonville Jaguars: "A Refreshing Break From Watching The Underarm Wattles Of Elderly Floridians Flail About As They Wave Their Bingo Cards."

Kansas City Chiefs: "Come See A Priest Run Wild -- Without All The Catholic Guilt."

Miami Dolphins: "Seau! Seau! Seau! No, Seriously, 'Say Ow,' Because Our Inflated Ticket Prices Are Painful."

San Francisco 49ers: "Straight Guys (In Glorified Capri Pants) For The Queer Eye."


St. Louis Rams: "We Added Jason Sehorn To Spruce Up Our Defense-Which Is Kind Of Like Adding A Rear Spoiler To Spruce Up Your Geo."


ESPN

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Socking_Up

Edited to say that I'm drawing a complete blank on other epithets that have previous non-racial meanings at the moment. N-word, nope. S-word, nope. WB-word, nope ... Okay, chink has multiple meanings, but that's the only one I can think of.

I'll have a fag while I use a spade to dig myself a grave. It will be a gay time.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Bitch please. I never envisioned myself saying this, but Puff Daddy deserves more respect than they give him.

I think I will follow Frederick's lead next time I'm in court. "Huh? Whuh? Naw, man, I's jus sucking my thumb, man. No disrepect. I just think my argument was pretty good man. Fuck what you think. I ain't here to have you tell me my argument sucks."

Bitch please.

I've managed to see most of the MTBII episodes this year. I think Frederick kicks a whole lot of ass; he's got great flow. The episode with Wyclef was the first that made me think this band could be listenable. Not too sure they're not trying to squeeze too much into that one song, however.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by evenodds
I missed this week's episode, but I have to agree. Before this show, I haaaaaaaated Puffy. Now I definitely respect him for the business man he is.

This show is high comedy. (All the kids deserve to be dropped off an island and never heard from again.)

It's my second favorite reality show behind Project Greenlight.

Ok, then let's figure this out. Are Kyle and Effram
a) misunderstood geniuses
b) complete morons
c) spoiled children
d) hard working but with limited talent
e) losers with an overinflated opinion of their own sense of humor and storytelling ability
f) manipulative fucks
g) misogynists
h) unwilling to take any responsibility for things going wrong
i) idiots for failing to work within the system
j) to be commended for fighting against the system

More than one answer is allowed.

Oh, and by the way, I saw Jeff Balis walking in my neighborhood on Sunday. I was this close to calling out "yo, Jeff" across the street. If my fiancee hadn't been with me, I might have done it.

I love the show. I think it's brilliant. I think Shia LeBoef is really really great. And I think Chris Mohr has a tough job, but probably gets paid a more than sufficient amount to make it worthwhile.

[W.W.L.D.]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I'll have a fag while I use a spade to dig myself a grave. It will be a gay time.

DJ: How about this.....when was your first gay experience?

Mr. Burns: Oh well...when I was six my father took me on a picnic....
That was a gay old time....hoho...I ate my share of weiners THAT day!

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by W.W.L.D.
DJ: How about this.....when was your first gay experience?

Mr. Burns: Oh well...when I was six my father took me on a picnic....
That was a gay old time....hoho...I ate my share of weiners THAT day!

Why Did They Have to Take the Word Gay?

Transcribed from: ZTV (Sweden)
Transcribed by: crippa@geocities.com

[Mark as an old lady, solving a crossword puzzle in her garden.]

Mark: I'm all in favor of certain people having their own, you know, lifestyle, but...why did they have to take the word "gay"? It's such a lovely word! They've...they've robbed the English language of a beautiful word. I...they have. I mean, now if I say to one of my friends, or one of my friends asks me, "How is your son or daughter feeling?", and I say "Oh, they're feeling gay"...it's a scandal. I've had to stop using the word altogether. Oh. So they've taken "gay" away from us. What was wrong with "pervert"?

And you can't use the word "faggot" anymore either, you...it used to be a lovely bundle of sticks. On cold winters' nights you'd throw another faggot on the fire. But now they work in restaurants, making your salads, being snotty and still expecting fifteen percent.

"Cunnilingus"? My grandfather drove one across America. With pride. He bought the first one off the lot in 1923. Oh, but now they're all gone, forgotten - the Cunnilingus, the Rambler. Oh. I suppose "Rambler" means something filthy now too, does it, does it mean something...?

Can't use the word "fisting" anymore either, oh no. No, no. But back in the forties the girls and I used to fist every Sunday afternoon. It was a knitting stitch, and a very difficult one. I made a lovely yellow afghan full of tiny, intricate fistings, that won a, that won a grand prize at a, at a jamboree. Yeah. Gave up knitting altogether, though, in 1979, finally found out what the word meant, oh no. No, no. I took that afghan with all that lovely fisting and put it up the poop-hole. Oh, that's, that's what we used to call attic. Now they're all gone, locked away, like those beautiful words.

Well, I guess I'm just supposed to fade away, in silence...or be modern and accept it. Fine. I guess I'll just have a Fuck Off. Oh, that used to be a summer drink, you know.

http://www.kithfan.org/work/transcri...e/wordgay.html

[ias_39]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

A college professor of mine pointed out that if tomorrow God wrote in mile-high letters in the sky, "Homosexuality is an abomination --- ix-nay on the uttlove-bay," the debate would still continue.

Your professor sounds like a hippy that's confused by simple phrases like coming down from on high. The God of the OT wouldn't sit in heaven taking bong rips and blowing smoke letters. If the jealous, vengeful, violent god of the Old Testament were in the miracle business, He wouldn't stop with warnings.