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04-22-2008, 11:04 PM
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#151
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For the People
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: on the coast
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Dear god.
Will this race ever end?
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I do think the "Can you smell what Barack is cooking?" line was clever.
Hell, they've probably made t-shirts and made another $100,000 for the campaign coffers selling them.
If they haven't, they should start.
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04-22-2008, 11:53 PM
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#152
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
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I want that one -- the one who looks like Winona Ryder.
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Originally posted by Adder
You really think that Clinton's presidency was marked by a secret ultraliberal agenda? From the man who signed welfare "reform?"
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No, not "ultraliberal" -- but I do think he'd have gone harder and farther left if he could have gotten away with it.
Think about the Clintons' first year -- when they came in all naive and politically tone-deaf to how things work in DC -- came roaring out of the box with an Executive Order about gays in the military (later reversed) and the huge health-care reform effort (insufficently coordinated wih Congress and eventually dead). He got his ass kicked a few times and changed his tune.
In the end, he tacked to the middle, but in my view that was all about the politics, and doing what it took to stay in power. At that, he was masterful.
S_A_M
P.S. Sighhh. not a great night in PA, but it could have been a lot worse. Let's see what we can do in Indy.
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04-23-2008, 10:11 AM
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#153
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,178
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I want that one -- the one who looks like Winona Ryder.
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
No, not "ultraliberal" -- but I do think he'd have gone harder and farther left if he could have gotten away with it.
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Yeah, you are probably right.
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04-23-2008, 11:13 AM
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#154
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,480
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Politics as Usual
for Chicago, that is...
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The Los Angeles Times' campaign finance expert Dan Morain has found Obama campaign records reporting a $50 donation by Roy Scheider, who lists his occupation as actor and his home as Sag Harbor, N.Y. Remember him from many great movies including "The French Connection" and "Jaws" and the immortal line: "You're gonna need a bigger boat"?
According to the campaign records, Scheider made the donation on March 10 last month.
Trouble is, Scheider died exactly one month before that, on Feb. 10 at the age of 75.
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04-23-2008, 11:52 AM
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#155
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Podunkville
Posts: 6,034
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"I'm not quite dead yet."
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
for Chicago, that is...
According to the campaign records, Scheider made the donation on March 10 last month.
Trouble is, Scheider died exactly one month before that, on Feb. 10 at the age of 75.
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I understand that he'll be voting in November as well.
Looks like your playoff strategy worked, by the way.

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04-23-2008, 12:54 PM
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#156
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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"I'm not quite dead yet."
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Originally posted by Not Bob
I understand that he'll be voting in November as well.
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Can't you write pretty much anything on the slip of paper that goes in with the donation?
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04-23-2008, 12:57 PM
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#157
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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"I'm not quite dead yet."
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Can't you write pretty much anything on the slip of paper that goes in with the donation?
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Burger, this is clearly fraud of the worst kind, on a scale almost unimaginable to the Average Joe. Stop being such an apologist.
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04-23-2008, 01:07 PM
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#158
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Podunkville
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"I feel happy."
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Can't you write pretty much anything on the slip of paper that goes in with the donation?
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Indeed. And if it was a cash or money order donation, how could one verify it? I'm now curious to see if Mike Hunt, Warren Pease, or Dick Hurtz have contributed as well.
Kidding aside, one possible explanation is that Roy sent the contribution in before he died, and it didn't get credited for a while. From my limited experience at raising cash for a candidate, contributions received at fundraisers tend to sit a bit before they are forwarded off to the main office for deposit.
Or the Obama finance people are crooked, but incompetently so.
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04-23-2008, 01:20 PM
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#159
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,150
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"I'm not quite dead yet."
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Burger, this is clearly fraud of the worst kind, on a scale almost unimaginable to the Average Joe. Stop being such an apologist.
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the average white joe?
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04-23-2008, 01:28 PM
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#160
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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"I'm not quite dead yet."
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the average white joe?
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Any average anyone -- $50! My mind cannot grapple with such amounts. If that were dollar bills laid end-to-end, how many times would it circle the globe? If it were pennies stacked one atop the other, would it reach the moon? Venus? Mercury?
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04-23-2008, 01:39 PM
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#161
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rose City 'til I Die
Posts: 3,309
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"I'm not quite dead yet."
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Any average anyone -- $50! My mind cannot grapple with such amounts. If that were dollar bills laid end-to-end, how many times would it circle the globe? If it were pennies stacked one atop the other, would it reach the moon? Venus? Mercury?
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Uranus!
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04-23-2008, 01:45 PM
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#162
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Trampoline
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Originally posted by Buck
Spanks,
Hey there! For your info, the cheap plastic steps you had set up to assist to the tramboline were too steep and rickety and gave me sore hoofs. And the whole thing swayeed and shaked in the wind. Useless for us 4 leggers. Plus your yard got overrun with chipmunks, those damn cats and I think a humminbird. So you know, I was not scared of any of them creatures, but the cats were a little unstable.
Anyway, I am in Wyoming now. Living the highlife near the Grand Tetons. It is flipping AMAZING here. It is big wide open country, with clean running clear waters and vibrant color schemes of browns and other natural colors all around. I am happy here, and sort of miss you but not really. I'll post again soon or maybe not. Not much internet here.
Happy Earthday!
Yours truly,
Buck
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Why didn't you take more of friends with you? Two days ago I counted twenty two deer in the yard. I live in Palo Alto for the love of God. I am a mile from the freeway and a quarter mile from a major expressway. A safeway is only a mile and a half from here.
Someone is going to get nailed by a car very soon.
This is no place for wildlife.
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04-23-2008, 01:48 PM
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#163
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,084
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Giving Hillary a double-digit win.
A lot of the press was saying that Hillary needed to win by double-digits (this sort of thing is stupid, but I digress), and this morning they're reporting that she indeed won by 10%, justifying her decision to keep on fighting.
Only she didn't. According to the numbers updated three minutes ago at CNN, the percentages for the two candidates were:
Clinton 54.6875149%
Obama 45.3124851%
The difference being 9.3750299%, or 9% for those who like to round.
But you need a calculator to figure this out, because CNN, in a typical innumerate way, rounds the totals to 55 and 45, pushing her margin into double digits.
Now, I think the whole exercise is stupid. The double-digit benchmark is entirely fictitious, an expectations game that has nothing to do with the important questions of substance or tactics in the race. But if that's going to be the benchmark, she didn't hit it.
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04-23-2008, 01:49 PM
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#164
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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I want that one -- the one who looks like Winona Ryder.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Michael Smerconish, the conservative radio talk show host/columnist from Philly, is an actual fan of Barry O.
AoN, after the hockey game last night, I was channel surfing, and watched about 30 minutes of "Primary Colors." I realized that Obama is Bill Clinton circa 1992 -- the Right is absolutely convinced that he is a lying scumbag who is mouthing moderate-seeming platitudes to get elected, but actually has a secret liberal agenda. And he hates America and his wife is not appropriately deferential.
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The problem with your analogy is that Clinton was actually a conservative governor from Arkanss who was head of the DLC. He felt necessary to go off on Sister Solja to establish his conservative credentials. Obama refuses to disavow Sister Solja.
Obama has the most liberal voting record in the Senate. The liberal agenda is no secret.
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04-23-2008, 01:52 PM
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#165
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
Posts: 19,042
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"I'm not quite dead yet."
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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Uranus!
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Oh . . . let's use the Susan B. Anthonys in that case.
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