Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
"Uh, this bag of gay porn? That's for my wife."

Speaking oif gay porn...
Anyone watching this? I had just about given up on it but its starting to get better. If anyone saw this, can they confirm whether the gal who banged the hairdresser was Sarah Michelle Gellear, Rosanna Arquette or someone else? It amazes me that I could think someone could be either of these two but apparently they look a lot alike.

[Atticus Grinch]

Referring to [Jessica] Simpson's role on MTV's "Newlyweds," Bush told the audience, "Jessica Simpson is here with us, which means we've finally introduced reality TV to the Lincoln Theater."

He meant Ford's Theatre, of course, but everyone knows President Lincoln was shot there. "An easy mistake to make," Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle told us at a post-show dinner at the Organization of American States.

Simpson, whose verbal gaffes are also legendary, pulled another one Sunday visiting the White House, our sources say. The singer was introduced to Interior Secretary Gale Norton and gushed: "You've done a nice job decorating the White House."

Washington Post.

Bush should just hire whomever Simpson uses. His was an old chestnut, but everything she says is scripted by Vlanich.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Two reasons. First, you help provide the market, and the market (i.e., money) is the only reason people do this. Second, it's hard to believe that you find the whole thing so appalling when you sit there and watch it.

I've never been measured in the Nielson ratings. Are you saying the market is the only reason that Mtv airs the show or that it is the only reason why people decide they want to look like someone else and go to extreme measures to do so? Maybe if you are pointing out Mtv's motives (but that just gets me back to my point that no one is monitoring my viewing habits), but no way if you are trying to say that people wouldn't be doing this perverse shit to themselves without Mtv recording it. That is part of what makes it so interesting to me. It is like a giant recording of all of the wacky people who inhabit our country. As to what I found disturbing, I think I summed it up pretty well in my first post, so I'll nto rehash here. I also find A&E shows about the Manson family disturbing, but interesting. I think you confuse my discription of "disturbing" with some other value judgment that you might make. Maybe appalling wouldn't even turn me off, I'm not sure. I just write it off to voyeurism.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Do you still wear your Members Only jacket?

I never had one. Did you?

[Atticus Grinch]

Maine man attempts suicide by crucifixion; runs into the predictible problem of how to seal the deal; calls 911 with free hand.

I think attaching the note saying "suicide" was a thoughtful gesture. The Jews have enough troubles already.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I've never been measured in the Nielson ratings. Are you saying the market is the only reason that Mtv airs the show or that it is the only reason why people decide they want to look like someone else and go to extreme measures to do so? Maybe if you are pointing out Mtv's motives (but that just gets me back to my point that no one is monitoring my viewing habits), but no way if you are trying to say that people wouldn't be doing this perverse shit to themselves without Mtv recording it. That is part of what makes it so interesting to me. It is like a giant recording of all of the wacky people who inhabit our country. As to what I found disturbing, I think I summed it up pretty well in my first post, so I'll nto rehash here. I also find A&E shows about the Manson family disturbing, but interesting. I think you confuse my discription of "disturbing" with some other value judgment that you might make. Maybe appalling wouldn't even turn me off, I'm not sure. I just write it off to voyeurism.

Your original question involved why people would put their kids on MTV in this situation, not just why they would do it at all. And the answer to that seems to be for a shot at fame and money, fame and money that don't exist if people who think this is sick shit don't watch it.

A documentary about the Manson family is a bit different, given that it's an historical piece and not a "current events" show. But if you were to start watching a series called "Killing Spree" I would have similar concerns.

I took your original post to be expressing a level of shock and even anger at parents that would make their kids circus freaks in the way that you described the show as doing. That's a very different kind of "disturbing" than I would expect you would get from the Manson show.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Maine man attempts suicide by crucifixion; runs into the predictible problem of how to seal the deal; calls 911 with free hand.

I think attaching the note saying "suicide" was a thoughtful gesture. The Jews have enough troubles already.

How did he reach the phone?

[leagleaze]

It was Arquette

It isn't really gay porn though. Seems to me the hetero sex is always more explicit than the lesbian sex.

They definitely need a better writing team.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Your original question involved why people would put their kids on MTV in this situation, not just why they would do it at all. And the answer to that seems to be for a shot at fame and money, fame and money that don't exist if people who think this is sick shit don't watch it.

A documentary about the Manson family is a bit different, given that it's an historical piece and not a "current events" show. But if you were to start watching a series called "Killing Spree" I would have similar concerns.

I took your original post to be expressing a level of shock and even anger at parents that would make their kids circus freaks in the way that you described the show as doing. That's a very different kind of "disturbing" than I would expect you would get from the Manson show.

I believe that the point of Mtv airing the show was becuase it is disturbing. How much of the decisionmaking Mtv contributed, I don't know. But I will guarantee you that there are parents out there who would say NO to their kids if the kids approached them to get plastic surgery on Mtv. It is not the network's fault or any potential viewers' faults that there are parents out there who do not say NO. Bottom line is that this mom certainly had to sign some sort of consent (likely many of them) in connection with the surgeries, and the videotaping in her home etc. Does it surprise me that there are people out there who decide to do it? No. Does it strike me as poor parenting? Certainly. But I'll watch the carwreck that is the show anyway.

[Atticus Grinch]

Claritas Marketing has neatly divided every zip code in America into populations of stereotypes, called "segments." You type in your ZIP code and it will tell you your town's top 5 segments, including demographic breakdowns of each.

It's uncanny. The first segment for my ZIP was:

07 Money & Brains

The residents of Money & Brains seem to have it all: high incomes, advanced degrees and sophisticated tastes to match their credentials. Many of these citydwellers, predominantly white with a high concentration of Asian Americans, are married couples with few children who live in fashionable homes on small, manicured lots.

Go here and type in your ZIP.

Keep an eye out for the Lifestyle Traits in the lower left, which are a hoot. The ones for Money & Brains are: "1. Shop at Nordstrom; 2. Support the arts; 3. Read Business Week; 4. Listen to all-news radio; 5. Drive a Jaguar." Well, three out of five ain't bad.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I never had one. Did you?

Of course. I remember my mom explaining why clothes should not have eppaulettes (sp?) and then grdugingly buying me the jacket anyway. She only asked that I not wear it out when I was with her.

I'd love to buy one an wear it to work just to see the reaction.

Originally posted by leagleaze
It was Arquette

It isn't really gay porn though. Seems to me the hetero sex is always more explicit than the lesbian sex.

They definitely need a better writing team.

Arquette then definitely got her horribe nose job corrected. And she looked really young. She also soudns like Sarah Michelle Gelllar. So strange.

YOu are right, it isnt gay porn. I just remembered I had a question relating to two women in a sex scenee. And taht was totally not explicit though there was some boob suckage with actual naked boobs that you dont always get to see on the hetero shows.

you gotta admit the storylines are getting a little better. Except for that nonsensical bs abouta man who thinks he is a lesbian. they should just lose taht yoplait chick altogether.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
series called "Killing Spree"

When is this on? I must tivo it. It sounds hilarious.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Claritas Marketing has neatly divided every zip code in America into populations of stereotypes, called "segments." You type in your ZIP code and it will tell you your town's top 5 segments, including demographic breakdowns of each.

It's uncanny. The first segment for my ZIP was:



Go here and type in your ZIP.

Keep an eye out for the Lifestyle Traits in the lower right, which are a hoot. The ones for Money & Brains are: "1. Shop at Nordstrom; 2. Support the arts; 3. Read Business Week; 4. Listen to all-news radio; 5. Drive a Jaguar." Well, three out of five ain't bad.

16 Bohemian Mix
A collection of young, mobile urbanites, Bohemian Mix represents the nation's most liberal lifestyles. Its residents are a progressive mix of young singles and couples, students and professionals, Hispanics, Asians, African-Americans and whites. In their funky rowhouses and apartments, Bohemian Mixers are the early adopters who are quick to check out the latest movie, nightclub, laptop and microbrew.

Lifestyle Traits
1. Shop at Banana Republic
2. Go jogging
3. Read Vanity Fair
4. Watch Friends in syndication
5. Drive a Audi A4/S4

It did nail my car. And who would have guessed it came up with liberal?

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Claritas Marketing has neatly divided every zip code in
America into populations of stereotypes, called "segments." You type in your ZIP code and it will tell you your town's top 5 segments, including demographic breakdowns of each.

Funny. Mine is "Urban Achievers".

Concentrated in the nation's port cities,
Urban Achievers is often the first stop for up-and-coming immigrants from Asia,
South America and Europe. These young
singles and couples are typically college-educated and ethnically
diverse: about a third are foreign-born, and even more speak a
language other than English.

Lifestyle Traits
1. Go to the movies
2. Shop at Banana Republic
3. Read Fitness
4. Listen to Black/Spanish radio
5. Drive a VW Jetta

I guess we are foreign-born (and I consider myself an up-and-coming immigrant), manage to butcher several foreign languages and ethnically diverse (if you consider a mix of several western European countries ethnically diverse). And I do read Fitness and have been known to go to a movie or two. So, yes, uncanny.