Making a buck cleaning Lester's spittle trays on Sequels' 22-year old supermodel abs

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield


Poor lox selection is a deal killer for me. What drives me nuts here in Philly is that there's not a good NY quality Jewish deli in the whole fucking city. The Jews in this town have really let this slide. Deplorable.

I .

Thats bc they are all smashed.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
In macaques and chimpanzees, she said, females are conditioned by the pleasurable sensations of clitoral stimulation to keep copulating with multiple partners until they have an orgasm. Thus, males do not know which infants are theirs and which are not and do not attack them.

In other words, Flinty's a bastard. And his mom's a slut.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
The network will add two new comedies and four new dramas next season, including a series in which Jennifer Love Hewitt talks to dead people.

I personally cannot wait. She is a really good actress. I enjoyed her work sobering up Bailey in Party of Five ten years ago. And she was great in the Ethan Zohn relationship.

Sarcasm, yes? She's a set of nice boobs and a bad case of hydrocephalus. I've never even heard her speak. "Party of Five"? Shirley you jest... Didn't that show have that Neve Campbell guy in it also? I think Neve's the go to sidekick in vehicles starring hydrocephalics. Neve did Wild Things with Denise Richards, who looks like a bobble head doll.

[sunnybunny]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Like women are more likely to cum from fresh meat.


May 17, 2005
A Critic Takes On the Logic of Female Orgasm
By DINITIA SMITH
Evolutionary scientists have never had difficulty explaining the male orgasm, closely tied as it is to reproduction.

But the Darwinian logic behind the female orgasm has remained elusive. Women can have sexual intercourse and even become pregnant - doing their part for the perpetuation of the species - without experiencing orgasm. So what is its evolutionary purpose?

Over the last four decades, scientists have come up with a variety of theories, arguing, for example, that orgasm encourages women to have sex and, therefore, reproduce or that it leads women to favor stronger and healthier men, maximizing their offspring's chances of survival.

But in a new book, Dr. Elisabeth A. Lloyd, a philosopher of science and professor of biology at Indiana University, takes on 20 leading theories and finds them wanting. The female orgasm, she argues in the book, "The Case of the Female Orgasm: Bias in the Science of Evolution," has no evolutionary function at all.

Rather, Dr. Lloyd says the most convincing theory is one put forward in 1979 by Dr. Donald Symons, an anthropologist.

That theory holds that female orgasms are simply artifacts - a byproduct of the parallel development of male and female embryos in the first eight or nine weeks of life.

In that early period, the nerve and tissue pathways are laid down for various reflexes, including the orgasm, Dr. Lloyd said. As development progresses, male hormones saturate the embryo, and sexuality is defined.

In boys, the penis develops, along with the potential to have orgasms and ejaculate, while "females get the nerve pathways for orgasm by initially having the same body plan."

Nipples in men are similarly vestigial, Dr. Lloyd pointed out.

While nipples in woman serve a purpose, male nipples appear to be simply left over from the initial stage of embryonic development.

The female orgasm, she said, "is for fun."

Dr. Lloyd said scientists had insisted on finding an evolutionary function for female orgasm in humans either because they were invested in believing that women's sexuality must exactly parallel that of men or because they were convinced that all traits had to be "adaptations," that is, serve an evolutionary function.

Theories of female orgasm are significant, she added, because "men's expectations about women's normal sexuality, about how women should perform, are built around these notions."

"And men are the ones who reflect back immediately to the woman whether or not she is adequate sexually," Dr. Lloyd continued.

Central to her thesis is the fact that women do not routinely have orgasms during sexual intercourse.

She analyzed 32 studies, conducted over 74 years, of the frequency of female orgasm during intercourse.

When intercourse was "unassisted," that is not accompanied by stimulation of the clitoris, just a quarter of the women studied experienced orgasms often or very often during intercourse, she found.

Five to 10 percent never had orgasms. Yet many of the women became pregnant.

Dr. Lloyd's figures are lower than those of Dr. Alfred A. Kinsey, who in his 1953 book "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female" found that 39 to 47 percent of women reported that they always, or almost always, had orgasm during intercourse.

But Kinsey, Dr. Lloyd said, included orgasms assisted by clitoral stimulation.

Dr. Lloyd said there was no doubt in her mind that the clitoris was an evolutionary adaptation, selected to create excitement, leading to sexual intercourse and then reproduction.

But, "without a link to fertility or reproduction," Dr. Lloyd said, "orgasm cannot be an adaptation."

Not everyone agrees. For example, Dr. John Alcock, a professor of biology at Arizona State University, criticized an earlier version of Dr. Lloyd's thesis, discussed in in a 1987 article by Stephen Jay Gould in the magazine Natural History.

In a phone interview, Dr. Alcock said that he had not read her new book, but that he still maintained the hypothesis that the fact that "orgasm doesn't occur every time a woman has intercourse is not evidence that it's not adaptive."

"I'm flabbergasted by the notion that orgasm has to happen every time to be adaptive," he added.

Dr. Alcock theorized that a woman might use orgasm "as an unconscious way to evaluate the quality of the male," his genetic fitness and, thus, how suitable he would be as a father for her offspring.

"Under those circumstances, you wouldn't expect her to have it every time," Dr. Alcock said.

Among the theories that Dr. Lloyd addresses in her book is one proposed in 1993, by Dr. R. Robin Baker and Dr. Mark A. Bellis, at Manchester University in England. In two papers published in the journal Animal Behaviour, they argued that female orgasm was a way of manipulating the retention of sperm by creating suction in the uterus. When a woman has an orgasm from one minute before the man ejaculates to 45 minutes after, she retains more sperm, they said.

Furthermore, they asserted, when a woman has intercourse with a man other than her regular sexual partner, she is more likely to have an orgasm in that prime time span and thus retain more sperm, presumably making conception more likely. They postulated that women seek other partners in an effort to obtain better genes for their offspring.

Dr. Lloyd said the Baker-Bellis argument was "fatally flawed because their sample size is too small."

"In one table," she said, "73 percent of the data is based on the experience of one person."

In an e-mail message recently, Dr. Baker wrote that his and Dr. Bellis's manuscript had "received intense peer review appraisal" before publication. Statisticians were among the reviewers, he said, and they noted that some sample sizes were small, "but considered that none of these were fatal to our paper."

Dr. Lloyd said that studies called into question the logic of such theories. Research by Dr. Ludwig Wildt and his colleagues at the University of Erlangen-Nuremberg in Germany in 1998, for example, found that in a healthy woman the uterus undergoes peristaltic contractions throughout the day in the absence of sexual intercourse or orgasm. This casts doubt, Dr. Lloyd argues, on the idea that the contractions of orgasm somehow affect sperm retention.

Another hypothesis, proposed in 1995 by Dr. Randy Thornhill, a professor of biology at the University of New Mexico and two colleagues, held that women were more likely to have orgasms during intercourse with men with symmetrical physical features. On the basis of earlier studies of physical attraction, Dr. Thornhill argued that symmetry might be an indicator of genetic fitness.

Dr. Lloyd, however, said those conclusions were not viable because "they only cover a minority of women, 45 percent, who say they sometimes do, and sometimes don't, have orgasm during intercourse."

"It excludes women on either end of the spectrum," she said. "The 25 percent who say they almost always have orgasm in intercourse and the 30 percent who say they rarely or never do. And that last 30 percent includes the 10 percent who say they never have orgasm under any circumstances."

In a phone interview, Dr. Thornhill said that he had not read Dr. Lloyd's book but the fact that not all women have orgasms during intercourse supports his theory.

"There will be patterns in orgasm with preferred and not preferred men," he said.

Dr. Lloyd also criticized work by Sarah Blaffer Hrdy, an emeritus professor of anthropology at the University of California, Davis, who studies primate behavior and female reproductive strategies.

Scientists have documented that orgasm occurs in some female primates; for other mammals, whether orgasm occurs remains an open question.

In the 1981 book "The Woman That Never Evolved" and in her other work, Dr. Hrdy argues that orgasm evolved in nonhuman primates as a way for the female to protect her offspring from the depredation of males.

She points out that langur monkeys have a high infant mortality rate, with 30 percent of deaths a result of babies' being killed by males who are not the fathers. Male langurs, she says, will not kill the babies of females they have mated with.

In macaques and chimpanzees, she said, females are conditioned by the pleasurable sensations of clitoral stimulation to keep copulating with multiple partners until they have an orgasm. Thus, males do not know which infants are theirs and which are not and do not attack them.

Dr. Hrdy also argues against the idea that female orgasm is an artifact of the early parallel development of male and female embryos.

"I'm convinced," she said, "that the selection of the clitoris is quite separate from that of the penis in males."

In critiquing Dr. Hrdy's view, Dr. Lloyd disputes the idea that longer periods of sexual intercourse lead to a higher incidence of orgasm, something that if it is true, may provide an evolutionary rationale for female orgasm.

But Dr. Hrdy said her work did not speak one way or another to the issue of female orgasm in humans. "My hypothesis is silent," she said.

One possibility, Dr. Hrdy said, is that orgasm in women may have been an adaptive trait in our prehuman ancestors.

"But we separated from our common primate ancestors about seven million years ago," she said.

"Perhaps the reason orgasm is so erratic is that it's phasing out," Dr. Hrdy said. "Our descendants on the starships may well wonder what all the fuss was about."

Western culture is suffused with images of women's sexuality, of women in the throes of orgasm during intercourse and seeming to reach heights of pleasure that are rare, if not impossible, for most women in everyday life.

"Accounts of our evolutionary past tell us how the various parts of our body should function," Dr. Lloyd said.

If women, she said, are told that it is "natural" to have orgasms every time they have intercourse and that orgasms will help make them pregnant, then they feel inadequate or inferior or abnormal when they do not achieve it.

"Getting the evolutionary story straight has potentially very large social and personal consequences for all women," Dr. Lloyd said. "And indirectly for men, as well."

I kept reading through this trying to find hte part where it said vegetarians less likely to cum than meat eaters.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
She's going for the Paris Hilton Alien-From-Close-Encounters-Of-The-Third-Kind look. The dress and the face and the hair are total skank Hilton look.

If you haven't seen it yet, the South Park where they tear Paris a new ass is really funny. Problem is, Paris probably thinks its a tribute of some sort. Why my gripe about Paris? It ain't that she's a rich vapid twat... No, my issue is that her face is ugly, and she's fucking up what's considered attractive in this country.

My defense of Paris Hilton is she is openly anti fake tit and given the unattainable body image without surgery that the Giselles of the world are promoting, I applaud that.




Not hot. Three thumbs down. [/QUOTE]

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Like women are more likely to cum from fresh meat.

"Furthermore, they asserted, when a woman has intercourse with a man other than her regular sexual partner, she is more likely to have an orgasm in that prime time span and thus retain more sperm, presumably making conception more likely. They postulated that women seek other partners in an effort to obtain better genes for their offspring."

So, you are saying RT should switch the vibrators around?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
In other words, Flinty's a bastard. And his mom's a slut.

No, the lesson is, evolution fucked us over. God, I want to be a monkey. All the fucking, not a stitch of responsibility. Why can't we devolve during my life span?

Originally posted by Not Bob
Gangly and short hair? You will never get yourself a sebby, young lady.

I had a dream about you, Not Bob, last night. The details are fuzzy, but I remember being disappointed to learm that Podunkville is really Covington, KY. Bevause to me, Podunkville lies in upstate new york (despite the piggly wiggly thing)

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
No, the lesson is, evolution fucked us over. God, I want to be a monkey. All the fucking, not a stitch of responsibility. Why can't we devolve during my life span?

And if you don't like somebody, it's perfectly acceptable to fling feces at them. Of course, you'd probably end up jerking off in public for free. Given the pink pants, I'm thinking the bright blue and red ass wouldn't be much of a problem.

Originally posted by sunnybunny
Sebby, if you ever are up for some extramarital action, I'm thinking you'd be a good candidate to lower my purity score.

Toodles,

Bunny

I think Sebby likes TITS. And I htink your incessant lecturing on other people's drinking and drug use might cause his dick to crawl up into his abdomen. I am not sure what woudl happen to his gigantic balls though. Do you teabag?

[notcasesensitive]

Entertainment Weekly Review of Chaotic.

Mr Man called this last night. Hopefully she avoids the pedophilia at least.

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Statistically speaking, Bo is the obvious frontrunner. I retract what I said yesterday about Carrie's movement. Shaking her equinivore 17 yo hips on the last number gets her to the final. I reserve the right to switch my pick between them next week in order to improve my chances of winning.

Paula criticizes nothing but song choice for everybody all season and then she picks Satisfaction for Bo? Is that the only "rocker" song she knows?

I wish Str8 had gotten back to me on how to buy Bo stock yesterday. I couldnt even get one vote though to him until like 10:20.

I am sorry but Carrie was shrieking on Crying. She started good and ended bad. And why did Randy pick such an easy song for her? Isnt the idea to challenge the singers, a la clive davis picking a George Michael song written by Elton John that is a staple of my lite fm alarm clock radio staion that Bo hit out of the ballpark?

I think Carrie has gained some weight aroudn the thighs. Nice and curvy.

Poor Vonzelle. She is gonna be very sad tonight. Back to the postal route.

[lookingformarket]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I'm going to have to do this experiment on my own time with actual doors, cars and donkeys. (Yeah, I'm leaving myself open, I want to see what you suckers got.)

TM

You sure that your mom is willing to give up the donkeys? Hiatus from the show for a while?

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
In other words, Flinty's a bastard. And his mom's a slut.

You're just jealous. And say hi to "your" kids for me.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Statistically speaking, Bo is the obvious frontrunner.

If you believe in gambling odds as indicative of statistical likelihood, Bo is just barely the frontrunner.

BO BICE 47 52 -108
CARRIE UNDERWOOD 43 48 +108
VONZELL SOLOMON 5 7 +1328