Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Anne Elk]

For all you TdF fans. Tyler hamilton threw out the first pitch at Fenway last night and got a rousing ovation.



Anne
The Sox come from behind to beat the Angels. Yeah!

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
My EX-brother-in-law (may he rot in hell) used to work at a porn place. He wasn't a lawyer, but I can tell you that the fringe benefits are quite lucrative if you are into those sorts of things.

A friend of mine runs a few porn sites. He recently told me he has something like 250 gigs of porn videos on a variety of computers. He also says that porn does nothing for him anymore.

[SlaveNoMore]

Replaced_Texan
A friend of mine runs a few porn sites. He recently told me he has something like 250 gigs of porn videos on a variety of computers. He also says that porn does nothing for him anymore.

And you haven't given Less or me a few complementary passwords?

not7yS

[blueballs]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

he has something like 250 gigs of porn videos on a variety of computers. He also says that porn does nothing for him anymore.

Let me repeat the scientific explanation that I already enunicated, it has been shown that brain chemistry and function are adversely altered by exposure to adult orientated material.

Just so the prevailing crowd does not get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with a little spicy erotica between consenting adults but the pervasive effects of a constant stream of SkineMax, MTV, Wild On E! and the harder core stuff is going to cost you your natural hormonal responses in the end.

Why do you think that the third largest cost for the adult film industry, after film stock and talent salaries, is the cost of viagra??

And before you question my prurient interests, i.e. whereby I came to such info, it was in the Economist.

[ias_39]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

I'll go further than that (and probably incur wrath). We're hypersensitive to the needs of single people to have their relationship status "respected."

Marriage isn't as popular as it used to be, doll face. Today, in the US, around 30% of men 16 or older haven't been married. The percentage is expected to climb. It amuses me to hear about the decline of marriage rates. Decline from what? The rates after the post-WWII marriage boom? Hah. A totally self-serving baseline. Go back to the 1890's in the US; a bit over 40% of men 16 or older had never been married, and a big old 67% of men 16 through 34 hadn't been.

[blueballs]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And you haven't given Less or me a few complementary passwords?

not7yS

One more word of warning, don't surf that stuff at work.

My sister-in-law told me that just last week at her office, a large brokerage firm in the midwest, that several brokers and sales assistants had been terminated, effective immediately, because they had used company computers to surf adult oriented web sites. They were given 5 minutes to pack their offices/desks and were given the old armed guard escort out. One of the guys, a 20 year veteran of the company, top producer and father of 3 teen agers, broke down in tears on the way out. My s-i-l said it was not a pretty sight but an example of what can happen when you play with fire. Just my .02.

[Adder]

Originally posted by leagleaze

What a stupid effort to drag the man down.

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Some christians. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Anyone hear if the Church of England confirmed it first openly gay bishop? I know there was one up recently (like June-ish), but I don't recall hearing about the outcome.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Adder
Anyone hear if the Church of England confirmed it first openly gay bishop? I know there was one up recently (like June-ish), but I don't recall hearing about the outcome.

Sure did. Then they made him step down.

[Fugee]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I have long since learned that if these so called moral people can't win their way fairly, they will do whatever it takes to win all the same.....

The Episcopal Church has interesting days ahead. I suspect the result will be, as with other large denominations over other issues, a split into two separate denominations, one more liberal and one more conservative.

Leagl, I agree that the tactics used to stop a vote on his election were sleazy and I said so last night. But you are looking at this as just another gay rights issue and not as a religious doctrine issue. Would you feel as excited if they had elected a bishop who was married but having an affair? It really isn't any different because each would be living a lifestyle that is contrary to their church teaching.

I'm not convinced the people who brought those charges to stall his election were the only ones not acting fairly. It seems to me that before the vote on this guy's nomination, they should have had a debate and vote on whether the gay lifestyle is consistent with being a good Episcopal Christian. But instead they made it a vote about one guy and as a result have a bishop whose life violates church doctrine. This is not a good thing for a church.

On the other hand, if there are heterosexual bishops who are openly having affairs or otherwise living contrary to church doctrine and haven't been given the boot, then they get what they deserve.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Fugee
The Episcopal Church has interesting days ahead. I suspect the result will be, as with other large denominations over other issues, a split into two separate denominations, one more liberal and one more conservative.

Leagl, I agree that the tactics used to stop a vote on his election were sleazy and I said so last night. But you are looking at this as just another gay rights issue and not as a religious doctrine issue. Would you feel as excited if they had elected a bishop who was married but having an affair? It really isn't any different because each would be living a lifestyle that is contrary to their church teaching.

I'm not convinced the people who brought those charges to stall his election were the only ones not acting fairly. It seems to me that before the vote on this guy's nomination, they should have had a debate and vote on whether the gay lifestyle is consistent with being a good Episcopal Christian. But instead they made it a vote about one guy and as a result have a bishop whose life violates church doctrine. This is not a good thing for a church.

On the other hand, if there are heterosexual bishops who are openly having affairs or otherwise living contrary to church doctrine and haven't been given the boot, then they get what they deserve.

You assume I am looking at it as a gay rights issue, in fact I am not. I don't think religion is a gay rights issue at all. I think religion should have nothing whatsoever to do with the struggle for gay rights, and that individuals in each religion need to deal with whether it is possible for the tenents of those religions to accept homosexuality as a reasonable way to live. I respect the right to believe homosexuality is a sin. I disagree with it, obviously, but I believe people have the right to view it that way, and I won't try to change their minds. Where I have a problem is when they take that religion and use it to tell me how I should or should not live my life, or the President stands up and informs me, from a Presidential posture, but based on his religious views, that I am a sinner and don't deserve equal rights, that is when religion crosses into my life and becomes fair game. Now those are things I see as gay rights issues.

Similarly, when at the last moment someone tries to derail something that in the past has just been a rubber stamp by clearly false efforts, that just is a problem for me. Is it a gay rights issue? No. It is a hypocricy issue.

From a religious point of view however, I would question whether it is appropriate for a man to be a bishop when he has received a divorce and perhaps left his wife a bit high and dry. I would also question whether it is appropriate for a gay man to be a bishop in this religion, I know little about it. Those are different issues from what happened this evening and last night. Last night was an effort by one side in which they said we are losing, we don't like it, and we don't care what we have to do to stop it, so lets lie, lets make stuff up. That's just wrong, and it is especially wrong in so called men of God.

If on the other hand the issue was forced, i.e. bringing him up to be a bishop, in an unfair or dishonest way, and that should come out, I would agree with you, that is no more right than what the people who didn't want him ordained did. I haven't seen any suggestion that happened.

They didn't seem capable on either side of having a reasonable discussion on the subject. In fact I never see extremists able to have a reasonable discussion on the subject, and yes again, on both sides.

But whether it is a religious issue or not, the fact that someone decided to attempt to sabatoge the effort at the last minute is what I am talking about. And it is so common.

[Fugee]

My Sun. to Tues. addictions (spoilers at the end):

Restaurant: I can't believe Rocco has 3 successful restaurants and is doing such a crappy job with this one. Maybe the evil Mark Burnett wants some drama so he's secretly sabotaging things. But if he wants drama, I'd rather it be something more exciting than that the food is crappy and cold and the waitrons are pissed at their poor tips.

Love or Money 2: These guys aren't into Erin as much as the guys on Bachelorette were into Trista. I think any of them would take the cash over her. Eric's misuse of Scripture to justify himself was a little too creepy for me and I'm not sure whether he is playing the part of a wingnut or that's who he is. Vic was smart to take the cash but if he had read his fellow players better he could have had more.

Cupid: This show is better than expected. The dates aren't so scripted as in others and Laura sets new standards of brutal opinion. She should get her own show, maybe a makeover one, where she can be catty. And the guys aren't all the same slick look-a-likes as in other shows. Spoiler follows-----












I can't believe Robert the Austrian Ah-nold clone didn't get the boot. People must have voted for him just to watch his painfully pathetic dates. The song he sang to Lisa -- ouch. My two faves are Hank and Joe; I'm a sucker for sweet goofy guys.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by LessinSF
I was dinged for not having enough chest hair, skin color, or bad jewelry. What's your excuse?

I suspect he had too much chest hair, skin color, and bad jewelry.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Fugee
My Sun. to Tues. addictions (spoilers at the end):

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I was amused at who won. Mainly because I thought that if he could get past the first part of the show, given the awful treatment he received, he could well get the underdog vote. They cut off their noses to spite their faces with how they treated him. I always wondered what exactly he did to deserve it. I didn't see much of the show, so perhaps he did something, but I cannot imagine what it would have been.

Did anyone see anything that suggested he deserved to be singled out the way he was?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ias_39
One other thing is that you can do some exercises with surgical tubing tying your foot to a table leg to strengthen the muscles on the front of your shin.

I get this mental picture of Slave running down the road with a table dragging off his foot and I just can't deal with this seriously anymore.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
that's pretty cool. us Catholics can't even ordain a woman yet...

A queer man is still higher in their sight than is a woman. Remember that as you eat that bisquit . . .