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Old 08-06-2003, 09:57 AM   #17116
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The winner may not have deserved the derision he received, but it was to be expected. His material falls into two categories (1) not funny, and (2) hack/derivative. Comics hate both with a passion. That's why Dave Mordahl was so well-liked by the other comics (and also why he lost to Dat Phan weeks ago.) Dave's stuff was original and off beat, but it's rare when that stuff gets mainstream success. Margaret Cho should sue Dat Phan for royalties.

Having said that, I still want a co-exec producer credit if any of my sitcom scenarios (Long Duc Dong 2K3 or Toshiro from Revenge of the Nerds 2003) are developed.
I have said this before, and I will say it again. There are no originial ideas. Just bc there is one famous Asian comic who does her family does not mean that any other Asian cannot be funny and is just a derivative hack. Many many comics do the exact same kind of routines, but they bring themselves into it and that is the difference. And Dat made me laugh out loud quite a bit. You just forget that you ever did bc he did his bit on practically every show. Mordall did former drinker a lot, so do many other comics including this one guy who is just brilliant at it whose name I forget but he took over the fat guy's job on that comedy show that comes on after SNL. Dat was not nearly as brilliant as Ralphie and I am bummed Ralphie didnt win, but Ralphie is also the first obese man comic who focuses on that that I recall (though maybe Sam Kinison did something ont his, but I dont recall that so much).

Hopefully someone gives Ralphie a show. I think that would be pretty progressive given the body obsession and skeleoria going on in Hollywood these days.
 
Old 08-06-2003, 10:16 AM   #17117
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:41 AM   #17118
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BoyMeetsBoy- missed this for the most part. I still have a huge crush on Dan and am really hoping he is straight. I think his oscillating on the manfriend in NYC is my best hope, though his highlights tell me there is no hope. Does thies run again per chance?
Missed the beginning of the show last night and I have no spoilers, but watched first show with a gay friend last night (yes, Tivo) and he voted straight on Dan. He really disliked Dan too. I still can't quite read and he wasn't featured in the part of last night's show that I caught. I still heart Wes. I want him as a friend! I was trying to sell my friend on him last night.

Queer Eye -- that apartment was a crazy disaster! I thought it was funny that they rented a 3 month storage space. Basically admitting that within 3 months, the place will be right back to where it started. Thom has really grown on me. I want him as a friend too.

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Old 08-06-2003, 10:42 AM   #17119
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While Dat was the least funny of the five finalists, I blame the other contestants for completely missing the point of their show. Likability is essential when the audience votes -- and they set Dat up to be the most likable and for them to appear awful every single week.

They all get career boosts from this.

Ralphie's shtick got really shrill tiresome by the end. I was so disappointed because I thought he was by far the single funniest person at the beginning.
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:46 AM   #17120
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This is totally not a spoiler, but Carson's catty comments at the end were wonderful -- "maybe a gig singing back up isn't so bad . . . "

He was a nice enough guy, but his voice was so disappointing.
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:50 AM   #17121
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A simple but useful analogy is found with the correlation of TV and violence. I pose the rhetorical question, does Television’s portrayal of violence as entertainment in fact spawn more violent behavior?
This is only anectodal evidence, but I have to answer this question with a resounding YES based upon my empirical observations with my own children.

We were once watching a show (not intended for children -- I think it was the Sopranos), and junior woke up and came out of his bedroom. At that moment, some characters on the show got into a fist fight. About 10 seconds later, my son started hitting me, and when I asked him why, he said "because those guys on tv are hitting." He was 4 at the time.

I could list many, many instances of his getting into scrapes at school where his language/behavior was DIRECTLY copied from movies/cartoons/tv shows. He once hit another kid at school (or kicked him or something), and said it was because that is what [one of the kids from Spy Kids] did to the "bad guys".

It is so obvious to me that entertainment influences [at least some] young children. I mean, DUH!
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:07 AM   #17122
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I am bummed Ralphie didnt win, but Ralphie is also the first obese man comic who focuses on that that I recall (though maybe Sam Kinison did something ont his, but I dont recall that so much).
Bitch, please. You never heard of Louie Anderson?
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:09 AM   #17123
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Would the poster formerly known as Majic Jackson pls send me an e-mail @ falalala2003@yahoo.com
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Hey, what about me? I get nothing? Not a shout out, not even a reference? I just had a delicious Apricot Mango cultured soy drink, made with organic soy beans and fortified calcium. From the Wedge, of course.
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:09 AM   #17124
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Bitch, please. You never heard of Louie Anderson?
Didnt he commit suicide after hosting the Family Feud? He is painfully unfunny as I recall so he doesnt count.
 
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Hey, what about me? I get nothing? Not a shout out, not even a reference? I just had a delicious Apricot Mango cultured soy drink, made with organic soy beans and fortified calcium. From the Wedge, of course.

Whatever happened to Mango Lassi? Has em

1)become shapeshifter?
2) become WWLD?
3) become blueballs (who I remember from the stalin DC board)?
4) become thrashersfan?
5) been retired to Penske's sock drawer?
 
Old 08-06-2003, 11:17 AM   #17126
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Didnt he commit suicide after hosting the Family Feud? He is painfully unfunny as I recall so he doesnt count.
No. Louie Anderson is very much alive. That other guy, Ray Combs, I think, committed suicide. (Though, I think suicide is an entirely appropriate response after one hosts the Family Feud.)

Ahh, now we get the qualifiers. There are times I think he can be very funny. I don't always think so, but then again, there is only so much comedic mileage you can get out of obesity and a fucked-up childhood.

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Old 08-06-2003, 11:18 AM   #17127
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Queer Eye -- that apartment was a crazy disaster! I thought it was funny that they rented a 3 month storage space. Basically admitting that within 3 months, the place will be right back to where it started. Thom has really grown on me. I want him as a friend too.
Finally a show where Jai gets something to do. What happened to previous Culture guy who got replaced?

The show made me want to shave my head, but my SO talked me down.
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:23 AM   #17128
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Missed the beginning of the show last night and I have no spoilers, but watched first show with a gay friend last night (yes, Tivo) and he voted straight on Dan. He really disliked Dan too. I still can't quite read and he wasn't featured in the part of last night's show that I caught. I still heart Wes. I want him as a friend! I was trying to sell my friend on him last night.
FWIW, I think Dan is straight also, but for a different reason. Mrs. Hand used to work (in an non-performing role) in the arts, so we had and still do have a number of actor and acting coach friends. What I see from Dan, which is common among aspiring actors, is a classic case of overacting. I think he's playing a role and is overselling it.
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:26 AM   #17129
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He was a nice enough guy, but his voice was so disappointing.
He was not breathing properly (for a singer). You could hear it when he talked too. Not sure how much of it was nerves and how much of it was lack of vocal instruction.

Get him some vocal lessons, and let him try over.
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:28 AM   #17130
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Finally a show where Jai gets something to do. What happened to previous Culture guy who got replaced?
From what I understand, Jai is (or was at the time of some tapings) doing 8 shows a week in an off-Broadway production, thus necessitating a substitute.

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That was absolutely hilarious when they uncovered the guy's porn stash... What was it, "My Baby Got Back #10"?? And the way they kept going on about the mirror over the headboard.
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