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Old 10-05-2005, 04:20 PM   #1786
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Funny you mention that because I was living in LA when that was going on. Most people were glad the shootings were occuring because they thought it would make the "jerks" drive less poorly. I am not kidding. Most people were not scared but happy. Only in LA.
The phenomenon recurs from time to time. Earlier this year there were a handful of shootings on the 110 near San Pedro.

No cheering IIRC.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:20 PM   #1787
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How about this? You set up some sort of lazer (that works automatically like those cameras that give tickets) that "paints" them with a signature mark that only can be picked up through infrared. When you get your hunting license you are given infrared goggles and then these people are fair game outside of their vehicle.
Sounds like a Dem's command-control solution to things. I'd just let RT drive as she usually does.

This prompts me to ask: If red-light cameras do not decrease accidents, can they survive rational-basis review? Should we have them at all, or are they just a driving tax?

I initially bought the idea that they, and their speeding-camera brethren, might have a deterrent effect, which overcame my belief that they were principally to raise revenue. But without even that thin reed to stand on, shouldn't they have to go?
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:20 PM   #1788
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Okay. Here's a chance to clarify. This post is a response to Shifter. In what way is Chavez "his boy?"
Perhaps Penske is Irish? Or at least trying to pretend to get in good with Weed?

Confidential to Penske: the correct Irish slang is "yer man" not boy.

And which Chavez is he refering to? Hugo? Cesar? Carlos? Norma (seems improbable, except that she's the only one who is both a) an American (Texan, even) and b) alive)?
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:20 PM   #1789
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I had a friend once.
What happened ? Did they drive in the wrong lane?
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:21 PM   #1790
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If God, as you call him, establishes what is right and what is wrong, then are you suggesting that everything God declares to be wrong is absolutely wrong?
Still thinking this one through?
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:21 PM   #1791
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Most parts of it. I've just never gotten into the Mortadella.
It's best as an accompaniment to capicolla and a salami in a sub.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:24 PM   #1792
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Sounds like a Dem's command-control solution to things. I'd just let RT drive as she usually does.

This prompts me to ask: If red-light cameras do not decrease accidents, can they survive rational-basis review? Should we have them at all, or are they just a driving tax?

I initially bought the idea that they, and their speeding-camera brethren, might have a deterrent effect, which overcame my belief that they were principally to raise revenue. But without even that thin reed to stand on, shouldn't they have to go?
They're still cheaper than humans. And they never stop at donut shops.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:24 PM   #1793
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What happened ? Did they drive in the wrong lane?
I ran out of money to pay them.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:25 PM   #1794
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Sounds like a Dem's command-control solution to things. I'd just let RT drive as she usually does.

This prompts me to ask: If red-light cameras do not decrease accidents, can they survive rational-basis review? Should we have them at all, or are they just a driving tax?

I initially bought the idea that they, and their speeding-camera brethren, might have a deterrent effect, which overcame my belief that they were principally to raise revenue. But without even that thin reed to stand on, shouldn't they have to go?
In Houston, our mayor and city council, over the objections of the legislature, the insurance industry, and pretty much anyone else they cared to ask, went ahead and installed the red-light cameras. We're about to start giving civil fines in the next couple of months. Local bloggers were thrilled about the WaPo article.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:26 PM   #1795
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It's best as an accompaniment to capicolla and a salami in a sub.
I just leave it out and double the capicolla.

I hear in Bologna some actually eat it breaded and fried, like a cutlet.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:28 PM   #1796
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In Houston, our mayor and city council, over the objections of the legislature, the insurance industry, and pretty much anyone else they cared to ask, went ahead and installed the red-light cameras. We're about to start giving civil fines in the next couple of months. Local bloggers were thrilled about the WaPo article.
OTOH, anecdotally, I think that redlight cameras were solely responsible for changing the regional norm around Baltimore of running red lights. I was almost killed the first time I tried to cross a street in Baltimore. The next six months were hell. Then the red light cameras were installed, and six months later, people stopped running red lights.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:29 PM   #1797
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Sounds like a Dem's command-control solution to things. I'd just let RT drive as she usually does.

This prompts me to ask: If red-light cameras do not decrease accidents, can they survive rational-basis review? Should we have them at all, or are they just a driving tax?

I initially bought the idea that they, and their speeding-camera brethren, might have a deterrent effect, which overcame my belief that they were principally to raise revenue. But without even that thin reed to stand on, shouldn't they have to go?
As someone who went to law school mainly to deal with all my traffic citations, I am way to close to this one to give a measured, thoughtful and unemotional analysis. However, I did hear that if you get one of these in the mail and just ignore it then nothing will happen. The reason I heard was because you have never been served properly. This is why cops force you to sign a ticket when they give it to you. They can't do that when it just comes in the mail. However, this does not seem necessary for parking citations, so who knows.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:31 PM   #1798
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Confidential to Sidd: While Penske is a mod, I understand that if you ask nicely, RT will put him on ignore for you, even for people who aren't sleeping with her. You may find this lowers your level of stress while reading the board. YMMV.
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I had wondered, however, if you were singing to each other in your sig lines.

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Old 10-05-2005, 04:31 PM   #1799
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OTOH, anecdotally, I think that redlight cameras were solely responsible for changing the regional norm around Baltimore of running red lights. I was almost killed the first time I tried to cross a street in Baltimore. The next six months were hell. Then the red light cameras were installed, and six months later, people stopped running red lights.
I vaguely recall either red-light or radar cameras in Dallas maybe ten or fifteen years ago. Result: a lot of shot out cameras.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:34 PM   #1800
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I vaguely recall either red-light or radar cameras in Dallas maybe ten or fifteen years ago. Result: a lot of shot out cameras.
Classic. I am now seeing gun rights in a whole new light.
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