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[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Won't this be obvious to even the most idiotic fan? What do they get, the ability to say "we didn't fire him"? The irony is, with A-Rod and Rivera poised to leave, they'd have plenty of money to pay him with. (And the Red Sox can become the team with the highest payroll . . . )

In my opinion, the best thing A-Rod could do would be to agree to an 8-year $160 million contract. The initial reason for the universal hatred of him was that no one believed he (or anyone else) was worth the huge contract he signed years ago. People hated him solely b/c of his huge contract (now, people hate him b/c of the huge contract and the fact that he's a total douche). If he's no longer the highest paid player in the game, maybe people will eventually forget about that. However, if he is signed for $30M/year, people are going to hate him even more (if that's possible). And, from what I can tell, it drives him CRAZY that people hate him. He seems like he really wants and needs people to like him - it's the only thing that is unattainable for him. I'm not sure he can recover from the huge contract and consistent displays of douchebaggery, but re-signing for another largest contract in history is just going to make it worse for him. Regardless, he'll go for the huge contract b/c he thinks it will make up for his glaring insecurities.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
On Stern they said he was looking for a % of the cable money. I'd offer him an end loaded deal. $1.5 million for every hit he gets in October.

I'd pro-rate it - $500,000 for the ALDS, $1M for the ALCS, and $1.5 for the WS.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
I'd pro-rate it - $500,000 for the ALDS, $1M for the ALCS, and $1.5 for the WS.

Incentivized, that.

You know, Joe is way too laid back for this current Yankee team.

Not that you want someone polarizing but slightly less laid back.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
but isn't his agent looking for a 10 year deal? That's just crazy talk.

It's Boras, who's always crazy. His problem is that he won't have the Yankees involved in a bidding war. The yankees will either resign A-rod, using some of the Rangers' money, or they won't. But once A-rod's gone, their offer won't go up, because they've lost the subsidy. Only the Red Sox seem likely to pay as much as the Yankees--who else-the Angels? Maybe, but Boras seems to want to create the impression that A-rod can do better by becoming a free agent. I just don't think so.

[Icky Thump]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Wow. Total Fucking Burn on Alexander. Zing-a-ling-a-ding-dong.

One could go in a Jets jersey with no arms and go as the jets whole fucking defense.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
It's Boras, who's always crazy. His problem is that he won't have the Yankees involved in a bidding war. The yankees will either resign A-rod, using some of the Rangers' money, or they won't. But once A-rod's gone, their offer won't go up, because they've lost the subsidy. Only the Red Sox seem likely to pay as much as the Yankees--who else-the Angels? Maybe, but Boras seems to want to create the impression that A-rod can do better by becoming a free agent. I just don't think so.

I would like to see the Giants consider it. They have a lot of money (the $10.03MM the Pirates are now paying for Matt Morris, the $15.53MM they were paying Bonds, the $9.8MM they were paying Armando Benitez). Plus, both Omar Vizquel ($5.1MM) and Pedro Feliz ($5.1MM) are free agents. That means over 1/2 of their this year's salary of $90MM is free. $30MM per for ARod might be steep, but I would pay $25MM in a heartbeat if only for replacing the butts in the seats that were there mostly to see Bonds.

[Icky Thump]

Naever mind.

[LessinSF]

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[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Maybe someone closer to TCOTU can explain this one to me, but it looks like the team was trying to make him an offer which would look good in the press but which he could be sure to turn down. A cut in base salary from $7.5 M to $5 M is huge, even with the possibility of $3M in incentives. From Torre's perspective, it's a pig in a poke, in that you don't know what else they're going to do to the team, and it would have meant a whole season of speculation about whether he'd be back the following year. Torre is a known commodity -- the Yankees don't need to offer him money to motivate him. So the $3M upside seems to have been designed so that the team could say to the fans, we expect to go to the World Series every year.

Dissent like hell.

That offer would still be the most lucrative managerial contract out there - one he'll never match.

An option that vests automatically if you just win the AL - not the WS. And not much to require either.

Any sympathy Torre had just evaporated in a NY minute.

[SlaveNoMore]

ThurgreedMarshall
It's a non-offer offer. An offer designed to look like we want him back and that results are paramount, but really they knew he'd reject it and now it doesn't look like he was completely run out of town. A constructive firing.

TM

How do you "fire" someone if their contract naturally expires.

Did the Astros "fire" Beltran when he went to go play for the Mets?

[SlaveNoMore]

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Won't this be obvious to even the most idiotic fan? What do they get, the ability to say "we didn't fire him"? The irony is, with A-Rod and Rivera poised to leave, they'd have plenty of money to pay him with. (And the Red Sox can become the team with the highest payroll . . . )

Why the fuck would you pay a guy 4 million more than the next highest salary just because you have the money?

It didnt make sense for JD Drew - sure dont make sense here.

[SlaveNoMore]

[i]I'd love to have Rivera and we certainly could use A-Rod at short, but isn't his agent looking for a 10 year deal? That's just crazy talk.

Rivera has gone on record many times saying that he could never play for the Sox, given all those years of rivalry.

I guess we shall see.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

The Mets could sure use Torre. And A-Rod. And anyone else who seems to have an actual desire to play baseball. And occassionally win.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Maybe they'll make some incredibly hot former lingerie model fall for a schlumpy married guy with absolutely no sex appeal as a rebound from her dead heart patient fiance.

Nah, too unbelievable!

That's the point at which I declared the shark jumped.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
And occassionally win.

Then why would they want A-Rod?