Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hell, all someone has to do is utter the word "fillibuster" and its as good as dead.

Deriving comfort from that tactic to excuse GOP legislative initiatives is funny, especially given that many GOPers want to eliminate the filibuster, no?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Deriving comfort from that tactic to excuse GOP legislative initiatives is funny, especially given that many GOPers want to eliminate the filibuster, no?

Okay, to be fair, you stop filibustering judges and let them up for votes, and we'll stop with the pledge silliness. Deal?

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
Deriving comfort from that tactic to excuse GOP legislative initiatives is funny, especially given that many GOPers want to eliminate the filibuster, no?

Am I deriving comfort from this tactic?

Personally, I think that anyone who refuses to recite the Pledge should be either jailed or deported.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
Okay, to be fair, you stop filibustering judges and let them up for votes, and we'll stop with the pledge silliness. Deal?

Had I confidence that GOPers would live up to the deal if Kerry wins in November*, I'd take it.






* Or, for that matter, even if Bush does.

[SlaveNoMore]

bilmore
Okay, to be fair, you stop filibustering judges and let them up for votes, and we'll stop with the pledge silliness. Deal?

At least let's go back to the old-school honest-to-goodness fillibuster, which lasts for days and literally shuts down all other business.

It's this "fillibuster-lite" BS that is the problem.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Am I deriving comfort from this tactic?

Personally, I think that anyone who refuses to recite the Pledge should be either jailed or deported.

Say what you will about his music, rumor is this is the reason behind Cat Stevens' deportation.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Personally, I think that anyone who refuses to recite the Pledge should be either jailed or deported.

Ignoring the First Amendment (hey, Congress can do it...), I'm thinking that you'd run into some First Commandment issues there.

I'm still thinking that I missed out on the Schoolhouse Rock that explained "an affirmation of religion that is part of the national heritage."

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

I'm still thinking that I missed out on the Schoolhouse Rock that explained "an affirmation of religion that is part of the national heritage."

No, but you definitely missed out on the Simpsons explanation of how legislation works:

• Amendment-to-Be
  
  Boy: (spoken) Hey, who left all this garbage lying on the steps of Congress?
  
  Amendment: (spoken) I'm not garbage.
  (sung) I'm an amendment to be,
  Yes, an amendment to be,
  And I'm hoping that they'll ratify me,
  There's a lot of flag burners,
  Who have got too much freedom,
  I wanna make it legal,
  For policemen to beat 'em,
  'Cause there's limits to our liberties.
  'Least I hope and pray that there are,
  'Cause those liberal freaks go too far.
  
  Boy: (spoken) But why can't we just make a law against flag burning?
  
  Amendment: (spoken) Because that law would be unconstitutional.
  
  But if we changed the Constitution...
  
  Boy: (spoken) Then we could make all sorts of crazy laws!
  
  Amendment: (spoken) Now you're catching on!
  
  Boy: (spoken) But what if they say you're not good enough to be in the Constitution?
  
  Amendment: (sung) Then I'll destroy all opposition to me,
  
  And I'll make Ted Kennedy pay,
  If he fights back,
  I'll say that he's gay!
  
  Fat Senator: (running up) Good news, Amendment! They ratified 'ya. You're in the U.S. Constitution!
  
  Amendment: (spoken, estatic) Oh, yeah! Door's open, boys!

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Ah. So your indignation is not that the candidate holds office while campaigning for another one, it's that the candidate did not arrive to vote on lopsided issues where he would not have changed the outcome.

Kerry has missed 90% of the votes this year. It isn't about lopsided issued. The senate was not voting on lopsided issues 90% of the time.

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
Say what you will about his music, rumor is this is the reason behind Cat Stevens' deportation.

The niceties of "Peace Train" aside, when you refer to him as Yusef Islam and look at the anti-West comments he's made over the years (and his verbal support of the fatwah for the death of Salman Rushdie), it makes perfect sense to me.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The niceties of "Peace Train" aside, when you refer to him as Yusef Islam and look at the anti-West comments he's made over the years (and his verbal support of the fatwah for the death of Salman Rushdie), it makes perfect sense to me.

I have read more about this guy since he's been cooling his heels in Bangor. Interesting how he's made the transition from kooky music star to just kooky.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The niceties of "Peace Train" aside, when you refer to him as Yusef Islam and look at the anti-West comments he's made over the years (and his verbal support of the fatwah for the death of Salman Rushdie), it makes perfect sense to me.

If you play Mona Bone Jakon backwards, it gives you instructions for making belt bombs.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Interesting how he's made the transition from kooky music star to just kooky.

Bite your tongue, you musically-challenged barbarian.

(ETA) And there's my flight.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Bush gets about 15% of his votes from these people. Kerry gets about 65% of his votes from the Dem counterparts.

Cite please.

And let's not go back to the 15 letters a day in your local paper calling Republicans baby-killers.

[SlaveNoMore]

bilmore
If you play Mona Bone Jakon backwards, it gives you instructions for making belt bombs.

Dear Yusef:

"If you want to leave, take good care
Hope you make a lot of nice friends out there
But just remember there's a lot, I'd beware"

love,

INS