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10-08-2004, 02:43 PM
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#1936
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Lies Lies and more Lies
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Well, apparently, the DNC smear campaign was successful and the idiot Mtv generation fell for it hook, line and sinker:
Too bad these idiots don't vote.
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Perhaps they're just listening to the presidential promises of a continued activist foreign policy and doing the math.
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10-08-2004, 02:47 PM
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#1937
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
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Slave? Anyone?
Any comment on the current rumor in blogistan that this photograph from the debate shows Bush with some kind of communication device strapped to his back, so he could get prompting from afar?
Even Drudge seems to be pushing it now.
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10-08-2004, 02:49 PM
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#1938
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Southern charmer
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Slave? Anyone?
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Any comment on the current rumor in blogistan that this photograph from the debate shows Bush with some kind of communication device strapped to his back, so he could get prompting from afar?
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I think it means one shouldn't confuse a crappy suit for a communications device. Bush needs to shop at better places than the Men's Wearhouse.
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10-08-2004, 02:50 PM
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#1939
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Slave? Anyone?
Quote:
Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Any comment on the current rumor in blogistan that this photograph from the debate shows Bush with some kind of communication device strapped to his back, so he could get prompting from afar?
Even Drudge seems to be pushing it now.
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That's an old rumor. It's already been determined that the lump is Voldemort starting to claw his way out of Bush's body.
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10-08-2004, 02:50 PM
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#1940
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Appalaichan Trail
Posts: 6,201
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The argument for a big win
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Originally posted by bilmore
My guess is, this one goes down to the wire, is followed by tons of court challenges based on voter fraud, polling place problems, intimidation by officials, and malfunctioning equipment, and is finally resolved sometime in late December, in a very unsatisfactory way (to many.)
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To about half, probably.
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10-08-2004, 02:50 PM
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#1941
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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Thanks, Hank!
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Over the last couple of weeks, Hank and others have been kind enough to steer us toward the electoral map at electoral-vote.com. I just thought it would be useful to see where it is before the second debate, with all of the battleground states now having been polled since the first debate:

Having trouble with the image - try the link.
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That has no credibility. How is CA "weak Kerry"?
edited to fix graphic -- t.s.
Last edited by Tyrone Slothrop; 10-08-2004 at 02:57 PM..
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10-08-2004, 02:51 PM
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#1942
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Lies Lies and more Lies
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
Perhaps they're just listening to the presidential promises of a continued activist foreign policy and doing the math.
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PA-LEASE
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10-08-2004, 02:53 PM
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#1943
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I am beyond a rank!
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Location: Appalaichan Trail
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Thanks, Hank!
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Originally posted by sgtclub
That has no credibility. How is CA "weak Kerry"?
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Why did it have no credibility when Hank was trumpeting it?
But to answer your question, any state with a less than 10% margin of one candidate over another is counted as "weak", but if you put your mouse over the state, it will show that Kerry has 51% to Bush's 43%. I wouldn't call that "weak" either, but that's how this guy does it.
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10-08-2004, 02:53 PM
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#1944
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Registered User
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Thanks, Hank!
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
That has no credibility. How is CA "weak Kerry"?
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Cf. dtb, supra.
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10-08-2004, 02:54 PM
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#1945
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Thanks, Hank!
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Over the last couple of weeks, Hank and others have been kind enough to steer us toward the electoral map at electoral-vote.com. I just thought it would be useful to see where it is before the second debate, with all of the battleground states now having been polled since the first debate:

Having trouble with the image - try the link.
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Having been a devotee of this map for a while, nonetheless I have to say that on any given day, it doesn't necessarily mean much. What's useful is watching the trends as it changes from day to day.
And the AMT is, sadly, very real.
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Last edited by Tyrone Slothrop; 10-08-2004 at 02:57 PM..
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10-08-2004, 02:54 PM
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#1946
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Southern charmer
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Data for a Divided Government
In an article otherwise devoted to the recent intelligence reform bill:
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"The appropriators rule here -- the fix is in," says Sen. John McCain. The maverick Arizona Republican has compiled data showing that in the 10 years the Republicans have controlled Congress, the number of "earmarked" pork-barrel spending projects moving through appropriations committees has grown from 4,126 a session to 14,040. The Senate defense appropriations subcommittee alone gets more than 3,000 requests for special projects from other senators; this session, the House Appropriations Committee has received more than 33,000 such requests.
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WaPo
The GOP Congress. Your home of fiscal prudence.
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10-08-2004, 02:56 PM
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#1947
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Slave? Anyone?
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
I think it means one shouldn't confuse a crappy suit for a communications device. Bush needs to shop at better places than the Men's Wearhouse.
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Besides, after listening to his performance, who could ever think he was getting prompts?
("Okay, now, pause, squirm, miss some key retorts, frown, and say "this is hard".")
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10-08-2004, 02:56 PM
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#1948
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Slave? Anyone?
Quote:
Originally posted by Gattigap
I think it means one shouldn't confuse a crappy suit for a communications device. Bush needs to shop at better places than the Men's Wearhouse.
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This would explain why Bush said "Let me finish" to no one in particular in the first debate. Neither Kerry nor Lehrer was interrupting him at the time.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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10-08-2004, 02:57 PM
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#1949
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Lies Lies and more Lies
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Originally posted by sgtclub
PA-LEASE
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Heh. OK, it's a stretch to see college kids doing math, but you get the point.
Look at the current resources we've dedicated to Iraq, and ask yourself how we can easily continue at current levels, much less undertake any other initiative involving forces, absent significant changes to the system.
The fiction that we can do it enables both candidates to talk tough about chasing Terrorist Fuckheads across the globe without facing the problem.
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I'm done with nonsense here. --- H. Chinaski
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10-08-2004, 02:58 PM
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#1950
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Slave? Anyone?
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
Besides, after listening to his performance, who could ever think he was getting prompts?
("Okay, now, pause, squirm, miss some key retorts, frown, and say "this is hard".")
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Now that you mention it, I wonder if he wasn't paying attention to his facial expressions because he was trying to listen to Kerry and Rove at the same time.
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