Fashion Board 4-6-04 to 5-7-04

[evenodds]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
. . . living on the down low. Apparently this behavior is a black man thing. e/o, any comments? Thurgreed?

Here is my comment:

I hate this fucking mis-application of a formerly useful phrase.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by evenodds
Here is my comment:

I hate this fucking mis-application of a formerly useful phrase.

Don't blame me. Blame Oprah or, even better, the guy who wrote the book.

It strikes me that neither James Lipton nor Tom Cruise is black. Not sure what that does to my hypothesis re: blowing versus being blown.

[tmdiva]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Don't blame me. Blame Oprah or, even better, the guy who wrote the book.

[Beating Fugee to the punch] It also recently made an appearance on Law and Order.

tm

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Don't blame me. Blame Oprah or, even better, the guy who wrote the book.

It strikes me that neither James Lipton nor Tom Cruise is black. Not sure what that does to my hypothesis re: blowing versus being blown.

Well James Lipton is married to an Asian lady so that is certainly in the "he is the blower" category.

[dtb]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Speaking of Tom Cruise, his lawyers--and kudos to anyone here who may be one, you seem to stay busy, please do not sue Lawtalkers--are going after a woman who says she had to teach Tom & Nicole how to steam things up in the bedroom for Eyes Wide Shut. Per IMDB news

Speaking of gay sex acts, we had some "Top 40 Countdown" show on the radio driving home last night, and the number one song was some song by this guy that sounds like some religious cult song. My husband and I looked at each other with quizzical looks, saying, "Is this some kind of religious song?!" and both thought, "Naaah, not on some mainstream Top 40 show." but I think maybe it was.

Can I have a ruling from someone of the wingnut persuasion?

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by dtb
Speaking of gay sex acts, we had some "Top 40 Countdown" show on the radio driving home last night, and the number one song was some song by this guy that sounds like some religious cult song. My husband and I looked at each other with quizzical looks, saying, "Is this some kind of religious song?!" and both thought, "Naaah, not on some mainstream Top 40 show." but I think maybe it was.

Can I have a ruling from someone of the wingnut persuasion?

I have no idea what you just asked.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by dtb
Speaking of gay sex acts, we had some "Top 40 Countdown" show on the radio driving home last night, and the number one song was some song by this guy that sounds like some religious cult song. My husband and I looked at each other with quizzical looks, saying, "Is this some kind of religious song?!" and both thought, "Naaah, not on some mainstream Top 40 show." but I think maybe it was.

Can I have a ruling from someone of the wingnut persuasion?

Well, was it a Clear Channel station? (they likey the wingnuts)

[sunnybunny]

I recently found out that someone who was a mentor to me when I was younger (horse person), who has looked very sick for years and everyone always asks me "does X have the hiv" does, in fact have HIV, that he ignored treating for a long time and now is very sick to the extent that he can't do a lot of daily tasks anymore. So my question is, he didn't tell me himself, so I obviously can't call up and say "hey, I hear you've got AIDS, can I stop by cause I feel bad" but is there an appropriate way to stop by for a visit to someone you don't normally visit under such circumstances? Do I just stop by his farm out of the blue and say hello? he's always there. I could "just be in the neighborhood"? I'd think calling ahead (he never answers his phone) and saying I'd like to stop by sounds a little more akward than a "just passing through" but generally I'd consider that a bit rude.

Thoughts?

[Dualit]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I have it on good authority that last week Oprah did a feature on men who cheat on their wives/gfs with other men, but do not consider themselves gay (or really cheaters, I think). I believe that one of the bases for not considering themselves gay was the fact that they did not blow men or take up up the ass, but only received blow jobs or put it up someone else's ass. Thus, if James Lipton blew Tom Cruise, these men would not consider Tom Cruise to be gay but would consider James Lipton to be gay.

I believe "on the down low" was a phrase used on the show.

ETA link http://www.oprah.com/tows/booksseen/...16_jking.jhtml to the book about living on the down low. Apparently this behavior is a black man thing. e/o, any comments? Thurgreed?

Popular rumor has it that Oprah is quite familiar with this behavior. Of course, it is also rumored that a little mutual bearding is going on.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
I recently found out that someone who was a mentor to me when I was younger (horse person), who has looked very sick for years and everyone always asks me "does X have the hiv" does, in fact have HIV, that he ignored treating for a long time and now is very sick to the extent that he can't do a lot of daily tasks anymore. So my question is, he didn't tell me himself, so I obviously can't call up and say "hey, I hear you've got AIDS, can I stop by cause I feel bad" but is there an appropriate way to stop by for a visit to someone you don't normally visit under such circumstances? Do I just stop by his farm out of the blue and say hello? he's always there. I could "just be in the neighborhood"? I'd think calling ahead (he never answers his phone) and saying I'd like to stop by sounds a little more akward than a "just passing through" but generally I'd consider that a bit rude.

Thoughts?

Usually when I don't answer the phone, it's because I don't want to talk to people. If I don't want to talk to people, I definitely don't want to see people. Does he not have an answering machine? Why can't you leave him a message saying that you're planning to be "in the neighborhood" for something on a certain date and you'd like to stop by if it's ok and leave your number. If he wants to see you, he'll call you back.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I believe "on the down low" was a phrase used on the show.

ETA link http://www.oprah.com/tows/booksseen/...16_jking.jhtml to the book about living on the down low. Apparently this behavior is a black man thing. e/o, any comments? Thurgreed?

FWIW, I've heard this was a Latino thing (i.e.: you're only gay if you take it up the ass).

I have no reason whatsoever to think that my source for this is remotely reliable, though.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Dualit
Popular rumor has it that Oprah is quite familiar with this behavior. Of course, it is also rumored that a little mutual bearding is going on.

It would be really so incredibly helpful if you could break up with your SO and document having sex with these various famous men who are rumored to be gay. Just for the benefit of the board -- no need to go to the National Enquirer or anything. We trust you not to make stuff up.

Please?

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by barely_legal
Usually when I don't answer the phone, it's because I don't want to talk to people. If I don't want to talk to people, I definitely don't want to see people. Does he not have an answering machine? Why can't you leave him a message saying that you're planning to be "in the neighborhood" for something on a certain date and you'd like to stop by if it's ok and leave your number. If he wants to see you, he'll call you back.

I totally agree. I hate talking on the phone, and when I am not feeling well I do not want to see people. Maybe send a note that just says "thinking of you" or find some article you think he would enjoy and enclose it.

I cant take it anymore. I have been in heavy back and forth email with my cheers friend. and while nauseating and unoriginal, i think its not wristslittingly gauche to say "cheers" on the end of the first email of the day. But by the tenth, when one throgh nine have the cheers signoff? Its driving me nuts. Like its reminding me she just may not be as cool as I thought. I asked her why she did this and she said "ha ha, you are so funny- I had a british friend and picked it up form him". Like that is an excuse. What can I do? Can I set up my email filter to exorcise the word "cheers" from any incoming emails? Can I do it for just hers since its good to know when new people use it that they might not be as cool as they seemed when I met them after having drunk six bourbon and cokes.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
I recently found out that someone who was a mentor to me when I was younger (horse person), who has looked very sick for years and everyone always asks me "does X have the hiv" does, in fact have HIV, that he ignored treating for a long time and now is very sick to the extent that he can't do a lot of daily tasks anymore. So my question is, he didn't tell me himself, so I obviously can't call up and say "hey, I hear you've got AIDS, can I stop by cause I feel bad" but is there an appropriate way to stop by for a visit to someone you don't normally visit under such circumstances? Do I just stop by his farm out of the blue and say hello? he's always there. I could "just be in the neighborhood"? I'd think calling ahead (he never answers his phone) and saying I'd like to stop by sounds a little more akward than a "just passing through" but generally I'd consider that a bit rude.

Thoughts?

I'm with bl on this. If he hasn't told you, it's probably because he doesn't want to tell you. I had a friend with HIV but didn't tell me until the full blown AIDS was obvious and he really just wanted someone else to talk to other than his mom about it.
If he doesn't answer the phone, perhaps it's because he doesn't want to talk to anyone - or maybe he's just ducking phone calls from particular people and doesn't have caller ID. Maybe a card - Hey I'm going to be up in your area on such and such a date and wanted to know if it would be OK to stop by and see you. I've tried to call, but you've been out, blah blah blah. Call me if it's OK. And then wait for the call.