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03-04-2007, 05:35 PM
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#1966
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Gattigap
Your frustration is understandable, but it's hardly new. We've had these kind of problems for several administrations now.
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Except that the Clinton investigations led to the indictment and conviction of numerous Clinton cronies; whereas, here, Fitz is prosecuting Libby for possibly not recalling what he said and when, regarding something that everyone has determined wasn't a big deal.
Why aren't they prosecuting Russert and Armitage?
More importantly, why is Sandy Burglar not in locked in irons? |
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03-04-2007, 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Isn't his real name Lewis? Of course, that's like naming your kid Winthorp.
The jury asked for clarification of what reasonable doubt means. That suggests there are some holdouts who are convinced, but not absolutely certain. I guess guilty.
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Apparently his first name is "Irve."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Libby
Fuckin' weird-ass WASPy names.
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03-04-2007, 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
More importantly, why is Sandy Burglar not in locked in irons?
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my kid's birthday is coming up. he's a bit of a history buff. how much do you think sandy would want to get me an original of the declaration of independence?
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03-04-2007, 06:19 PM
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I miss the teamsters.....
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
(that many fewer workers are in unions than would like to be in unions).
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For what it's worth, I am not sure this is true. |
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03-04-2007, 06:25 PM
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I miss the teamsters.....
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Originally posted by Adder
For what it's worth, I am not sure this is true.
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I heard it reported on "Morning Edition" last week, so how could it possibly be wrong?
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03-04-2007, 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This prosecution is an abomination. I can't believe they're wasting our tax dollars like this. I hope Libby beats Fitzgerald like a gong. Between Conrad Black and Libby, that clown's wasting gazillions of dollars of our tax dollars. They should leave Black to face off against his civil suits here and abroad - that's going to ruin the guy at zero cost to taxpayers. Instead, for media attention, Fitzgerald's going to spend 8 figures chasing a trophy for his hunting room. I couldn't care less if Black or Libby were both run over by buses. I'd like to know why so much of our money's being wasted on political witchhunts and prosections of "exotic game" like Black when (a) Libby isn't going to do real time even if he's convicted and really didn't do anything all that wrong and (b) Black would turn over millions upon millions if he were offered a civil penalty plea bargain. If the crime's economic, we should focus most on remedying its economic impact.
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Um.... how did you feel about the Clinton impeachment? Seems like 'ol Scooter did exactly the same thing.
But, actually, it think the only real value of the prosecution is to expose the extent of the (pathetic) White House efforts to undermine Wilson. |
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03-04-2007, 06:29 PM
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I miss the teamsters.....
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I heard it reported on "Morning Edition" last week, so how could it possibly be wrong?
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Had it been on This American Life, I might agree, but alas.... |
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03-04-2007, 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Except that the Clinton investigations led to the indictment and conviction of numerous Clinton cronies; whereas, here, Fitz is prosecuting Libby for possibly not recalling what he said and when, regarding something that everyone has determined wasn't a big deal.
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Really. I mean, it's not like he lied about getting a blowjob or something important.
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03-04-2007, 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Except that the Clinton investigations led to the indictment and conviction of numerous Clinton cronies; whereas, here, Fitz is prosecuting Libby for possibly not recalling what he said and when, regarding something that everyone has determined wasn't a big deal.
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No. The prosecutors are alleging that he actually did lie about something, not prosecuting him for "possibly not recalling" something.
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Why aren't they prosecuting Russert and Armitage?
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I don't know. Did Russert and Armitage lie about what they did?
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More importantly, why is Sandy Burglar not in locked in irons?
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I know! Those fuckers. You would think that a Republcan Justice Deparment would have the good sense not to settle when Berger pleads to the crime, and instead put on a big show trial. I say if AUSAs don't agree to do stuff like that, we fire the little shits and get some new ones.
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03-04-2007, 08:19 PM
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A Tunnel, Penske . . . ?
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03-04-2007, 08:48 PM
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Adder
Um.... how did you feel about the Clinton impeachment? Seems like 'ol Scooter did exactly the same thing.
But, actually, it think the only real value of the prosecution is to expose the extent of the (pathetic) White House efforts to undermine Wilson.
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Um, buffoon, for the bazillionth time, it was Armitage and State - not the White House - that mentioned the name of Valerie "not covert" Plame.
And for the billion-and-first time, Wilson should have been undermined, given the extent of his lies and his broad access to a gullible media. |
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03-04-2007, 08:49 PM
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I don't know. Did Russert and Armitage lie about what they did?
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Yes, both did apparently under oath. |
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03-04-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Adder
Um.... how did you feel about the Clinton impeachment? Seems like 'ol Scooter did exactly the same thing.
But, actually, it think the only real value of the prosecution is to expose the extent of the (pathetic) White House efforts to undermine Wilson.
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I think the Clinton Impeachment was one of the few things where "disgusting" isn't hyperbole. It made the GOP look lower than low (as it should for what it did) and made a huge swath of our country look like a pack of idiot puritan morons with 15th Century hang-ups about sex.
Oh, wait... a huge chunk of this country is filled with sexually provincial neanderthals...
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03-04-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If it weren't a Sunday, conservatives would be lining up to tell you how important it is to tell the truth under oath.
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I wonder how many cum stained dresses or suits there are in the first three rows of most DC churches frequented by bigwigs any given Sunday.
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03-04-2007, 09:48 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Um, buffoon, for the bazillionth time, it was Armitage and State - not the White House - that mentioned the name of Valerie "not covert" Plame.
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There's a ton of evidence that Armitage wasn't alone.
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And for the billion-and-first time, Wilson should have been undermined, given the extent of his lies and his broad access to a gullible media.
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That makes it OK to wreck his wife's career and do damage to other CIA assets?
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