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Old 11-15-2004, 08:59 AM   #1981
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I was at a hip hop show last night and there was a moment of silence for ODB. Had I a 40, you know I would have poured that sucker out. But it would have just been silly to waste my Stoli Red Bull.
How did he die? What about his kids?
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How did he die? What about his kids?
Unknown right now. Speculation is a possible overdose, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. His kids are still alive.
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:12 AM   #1984
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I was at a hip hop show last night and there was a moment of silence for ODB. Had I a 40, you know I would have poured that sucker out. But it would have just been silly to waste my Stoli Red Bull.
He was one crazy motherfucker.

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Old 11-15-2004, 10:17 AM   #1985
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Nope. The firm is generally more than happy to stick us anyway they can. But I have never taken them up on the offer.
My firm offers free shots every year, and predictably cancelled this year. Then they announced that the shot-providing clinic would, after all, offer shots to people meeting the qualifications, so call to set up an appointment.

This apparently resulted in a flood of requests for appointments for employees' little kids, which resulted in a firm-wide announcement that can be basically summed up: "Fuck your children - they don't bill."

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Miss Manners on the resurgence of dress codes

Miss Manners is on topic - dress codes!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov13.html

Reopening Clothes Minds
Sunday, November 14, 2004; Page D02

Acry of freedom went up when dress codes were abolished. Comfort! Creativity!

At last, a civilized society had recognized that it is what's inside a person, not outside, that counts. Even such oppressed minorities as schoolchildren, office workers and fashionistas finally gained the right to throw off all strictures (and practically all garments).

And what are we doing with this privilege?

Trying to end it, from what Miss Manners hears.

Schools and offices are reinstituting regulations and, so far, they are not encountering the sort of revolutionary opposition that had made them drop the ones they had. Airlines are wondering how to placate customers who complain about sitting next to exposed and (they inevitably add) smelly flesh. High-priced restaurants are fretting that a single baseball cap will drive away untold numbers of patrons who value "atmosphere." The fashion industry has switched from recommending that grown-ups dress like their children to suggesting that they dress like their grandparents.

What went wrong?

One reason that dress codes were easy to demolish is that those who fought to save them were in the untenable position of opposing comfort and creativity. Other arguments went unheard (as Miss Manners knows, because she was making them at the top of her ladylike voice) while these charges were being made.

And they will be made again. Miss Manners is not so naive as to believe that lessons learned from experience are remembered once the dissatisfactions that arose from the experience are removed. We just now happen to be in a period where the problems of rule-free clothing have become generally apparent.

While everyone gives voice to the desire for comfort, it is not a genuine concern for a sizeable number of people. Low-slung pants, stiletto heels and skin-tight jeans are no more comfortable than were such equally faddish styles as high, stiff collars and corsets. But those who really do put comfort above all turned out to be thinking only of their own comfort, however much discomfort it causes others who happen to be jammed up against them.

Creativity also offends others when it takes such forms as obscene slogans and threatening symbols. But it even rattles those who endorse it. For many, dressing has become too competitive, too confusing or -- of all things -- too boring.

Parents and teachers focus on how distracting and expensive it is for teenagers to dress to -- as they claim -- express themselves, but when the competition is free-form, even professionals find it overwhelming. Fashion arbitrators are notorious for promulgating ever-changing and outrageous styles for others while they stick to wearing black basics.

Others simply don't know what to wear. Confusion is rampant because the claim that clothing choices will not be interpreted -- that lofty argument about caring only about what is inside the heart, as if that could be glimpsed -- is false. Miss Manners finds it pathetic that innocent people who choose to dress as hookers or jailbirds are surprised and indignant when they are treated as being loose or suspicious.

Employers have come to realize that unprofessional dress symbolizes unprofessional attitudes to outsiders, and may even foster these in the workers themselves. And people who are told to wear whatever they like to a social event are well aware that they could still be judged as being over- or underdressed for the occasion.

Strangest of all is the absence of variety that comes with an absence of rules. Clothing conventions, like any social code, cover a myriad of conditions, including whether it is day or night, what season it is and what the venue or occasion is. When these faded out of use, only two amorphous styles were left: casual and wedding prom.

Miss Manners only asks for some semblance of order, not that everyone dress as she happens to see fit. Although she does note with astonishment that upswept hair, long skirts, brooches and gloves have been declared the latest fashion.
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:27 AM   #1987
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He was 35 or close thereto, right? Crazy indeed...
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I don't understand. You live in Boston. Why the heck do you have any interest in the Giants' game?
'Cause I'm a Giants fan (grew up in NJ). And isn't NJ closer to New England than say, Minnesota or Green Bay?
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Kind of strange. Used to be you always got the Giants game in NE, except when against a Pats home game. Sort of a regional affiliation, because of before the Pats. Guess they must have changed that--so now you get the national game.

The rule is that if your area's team is at home, you get only two games, one on each channel. If on the road, then you get three--two on that week's double-header network. If your team is at home and doesn't sell out, then you still get only two games, but something other than your team's game.

The real curiousity to me is why if the game is on ESPN, which everyone who wants gets, they also put the game on a local station, preempting the usually strong sunday-night progamming. Thanks--the Redskins suck worse than even CBS's sunday night fare.
I got spoiled growing up in metro NY. 4 games every Sunday. One of them the Giants. Ahhh, Sunday afternoon football bliss.

My other pet peeve is when the Pats have the early game we rarely get a 4pm game. Instead we get the Patriots 5th Quarter show, which is an ad nauseum regurgitation of the game highlights that never seems to end.
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http://www.eurweb.com/story.cfm?id=16164

There was supposed to have been a reality show, but I don't think it ever actually aired- did anyone see it? A caller to Stern claims to have been there at filming- so maybe the show will air soon.
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  • It’s been 27 years since “Margaritaville,” and Buffett still lives for the weekends. A few positive moments aside, this CD finds him spiritually lost in a chronic midlife crisis full of bars, women and zero accountability.
I last saw him in the Chicken Box on Nantucket picking up a pizza after crashing his plane in Madaket Harbor. Sounds like things haven't changed much.

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My other pet peeve is when the Pats have the early game we rarely get a 4pm game. Instead we get the Patriots 5th Quarter show, which is an ad nauseum regurgitation of the game highlights that never seems to end.
It could be worse. You could be watching the Raiders' or 49ers' post-game shows. One would think they might be shorter for the lack of highlights, but no.
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Miss Manners is on topic - dress codes!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov13.html

Reopening Clothes Minds
Sunday, November 14, 2004; Page D02

Acry of freedom went up when dress codes were abolished. Comfort! Creativity!

At last, a civilized society had recognized that it is what's inside a person, not outside, that counts. Even such oppressed minorities as schoolchildren, office workers and fashionistas finally gained the right to throw off all strictures (and practically all garments).

And what are we doing with this privilege?

Trying to end it, from what Miss Manners hears.

Schools and offices are reinstituting regulations and, so far, they are not encountering the sort of revolutionary opposition that had made them drop the ones they had. Airlines are wondering how to placate customers who complain about sitting next to exposed and (they inevitably add) smelly flesh. High-priced restaurants are fretting that a single baseball cap will drive away untold numbers of patrons who value "atmosphere." The fashion industry has switched from recommending that grown-ups dress like their children to suggesting that they dress like their grandparents.

What went wrong?

One reason that dress codes were easy to demolish is that those who fought to save them were in the untenable position of opposing comfort and creativity. Other arguments went unheard (as Miss Manners knows, because she was making them at the top of her ladylike voice) while these charges were being made.

And they will be made again. Miss Manners is not so naive as to believe that lessons learned from experience are remembered once the dissatisfactions that arose from the experience are removed. We just now happen to be in a period where the problems of rule-free clothing have become generally apparent.

While everyone gives voice to the desire for comfort, it is not a genuine concern for a sizeable number of people. Low-slung pants, stiletto heels and skin-tight jeans are no more comfortable than were such equally faddish styles as high, stiff collars and corsets. But those who really do put comfort above all turned out to be thinking only of their own comfort, however much discomfort it causes others who happen to be jammed up against them.

Creativity also offends others when it takes such forms as obscene slogans and threatening symbols. But it even rattles those who endorse it. For many, dressing has become too competitive, too confusing or -- of all things -- too boring.

Parents and teachers focus on how distracting and expensive it is for teenagers to dress to -- as they claim -- express themselves, but when the competition is free-form, even professionals find it overwhelming. Fashion arbitrators are notorious for promulgating ever-changing and outrageous styles for others while they stick to wearing black basics.

Others simply don't know what to wear. Confusion is rampant because the claim that clothing choices will not be interpreted -- that lofty argument about caring only about what is inside the heart, as if that could be glimpsed -- is false. Miss Manners finds it pathetic that innocent people who choose to dress as hookers or jailbirds are surprised and indignant when they are treated as being loose or suspicious.

Employers have come to realize that unprofessional dress symbolizes unprofessional attitudes to outsiders, and may even foster these in the workers themselves. And people who are told to wear whatever they like to a social event are well aware that they could still be judged as being over- or underdressed for the occasion.

Strangest of all is the absence of variety that comes with an absence of rules. Clothing conventions, like any social code, cover a myriad of conditions, including whether it is day or night, what season it is and what the venue or occasion is. When these faded out of use, only two amorphous styles were left: casual and wedding prom.

Miss Manners only asks for some semblance of order, not that everyone dress as she happens to see fit. Although she does note with astonishment that upswept hair, long skirts, brooches and gloves have been declared the latest fashion.
That's OK. When the suits come back, my ultra-casual attire will once again be a nice reminder that the rules don't apply to some of us. It's been a bore having you all try to dress like me, fraying jeans and all.
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My other pet peeve is when the Pats have the early game we rarely get a 4pm game. Instead we get the Patriots 5th Quarter show, which is an ad nauseum regurgitation of the game highlights that never seems to end.
You wouldn't get a game anyway. The 5th quarter is in lieu of paid programming.

Speaking of which, our FB spokesmodel, John Basedow, seems to have gone in for some highlighting, as revealed repeatedly during the Pats-Bills game. I won't post a pic because we've seen far too many of those.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:16 AM   #1995
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Stolen Money

2 hours, 11 minutes ago Top Stories - AP



GREENSBURG, La. - Beavers found a bag of bills stolen from a casino, tore it open and wove the money into the sticks and brush of their dam on a creek near Baton Rouge.



"They hadn't torn the bills up. They were still whole," said Maj. Michael Martin of the East Feliciana Parish Sheriff's Office.


The money was part of at least $70,000 taken last week from the Lucky Dollar Casino in Greensburg, about 30 miles northeast of Baton Rouge.


Sheriff's deputies in St. Helena Parish, where the truck stop video poker casino is located, have accused a security guard at the casino of disabling its security cameras. Jacqueline Wall, 25, was booked with felony theft, Martin said.


She told investigators a ski-masked gunman made her help him empty all the casino's safes, then kidnapped her, knocked her out and left her in an uninhabited area in East Feliciana Parish.


Deputies had searched for the money for days before an attorney called with a tip: the money had been thrown into the creek. The attorney's client hopes to make a deal with prosecutors, Greensburg Police Chief Ronald Harrell said.


They found one money bag right away. The second was downstream, against the beaver dam.


After trying unsuccessfully to find the third bag in the deep water near the dam, Martin said, deputies began to break it down to release some of the water so they could search in a shallower pool.


That was when they saw the dam's expensive decoration.


He said they eventually found the third sack, which still had some money left in it.


"The casino people were elated" to get the money back, even if some of it was wet, Harrell said.


Deputies found about $40,000, and expected to find the rest in a safety deposit box at a bank in Mississippi.
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