Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Tee hee.

Alright, Shifty. Leave the nice lesbians alone...

What's the matter? LizardSkinemax not "doing it for you"?

[andViolins]

the Lesbian discussion, but I must quickly submit this gem:



Behold the power of Cheesus!

http://www.poizenideas.com/cheesus/

Coming soon -> the Gouda Buddha.

aV

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by mmm3587
My list of biggest asshole lawyer locations, in decreasing assholeness:

1. NYC, although maybe it's just by sheer number, not rate
2. [random medium size markets where they have a big chip on their shoulder about not being a bigger market; think St. Louis, Portland, Minneapolis]
3. D.C.
4. [random foreign cities where U.S. lawyers practice; think London, Paris, Frankfurt, etc.; what, did you assholes all leave the U.S. because everyone hated you here?]
5. Boston

Since we're taking a poll, my list:

1. NYC
2. Akron
3. Buffalo
4. Indiana
5. Omaha

[dc_chef]

Originally posted by leagleaze
The sex wasn't particularly explicit (thank God for small favors)

Thanks. Now I know not to bother watching.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by andViolins
Behold the power of Cheesus!

Coming soon -> the Gouda Buddha.

aV

Mmmmm Sacrilege.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by dc_chef
Thanks. Now I know not to bother watching.

Hey, I'm here for you man.

There was much rolling around, a lot of breasts, a lot of heads moving down in certain directions, a very amusing scene in a gynecologist's office, but covered by the gynecologist drape thing, so all in all, a lot implied, not as much shown.

[purse junkie]

A true monstrosity, perhaps unsurprising coming from someone who spent her wrestling career in pleather bikinis:

http://entertainment.msn.com/photos/...=202315#photos

[dc_chef]

Originally posted by leagleaze
a lot implied, not as much shown

So much for cross-marketing.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by purse junkie
A true monstrosity, perhaps unsurprising coming from someone who spent her wrestling career in pleather bikinis:

http://entertainment.msn.com/photos/...=202315#photos

She looks like a drag queen who went very very wrong.

[dc_chef]

If anyone has opinions regarding flat screen tvs, I posted a question on the Other Gadgets board, and would appreciate your responses.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Since we're taking a poll, my list:
3. Paris & "The Valley" (tie, equally sanctimonious)

The Loire Valley? Silicon Valley? Texas's "The Valley" where they grow grapefruit? The Los Angeles area Valley, home of the Valley Girls?

Also, I note that this poll has degenerated into a "look how exotic my practice is" fest in just two posts. Please quit.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by baltassoc

Also, I note that this poll has degenerated into a "look how exotic my practice is" fest in just two posts. Please quit.

My list:

(1) Fiji - who do they think the are anyway? Exotic assholes
(2) Antarctica - frozen exotic assholes
(3) Galapagos Islands - Darwin exotic assholes
(4) French Riviera - connards exotiques!! Je suis si divers!
(5) Delaware

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Well, not really, but the movie apparently annoyed her, too, for slightly different reasons than it annoyed everyone else.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jan17.html

A Snide 'Smile'

Sunday, January 18, 2004; Page D02

If a Wellesley graduate of a certain age worries about attracting retrospective ridicule, her mind races to . . . posture pictures. Uh-oh.

These were photographs once taken of all students, ostensibly for health reasons connected with posture. As was revealed decades later, the photographs had been ordered in cooperation with a dubious sociological study done independently of the school, which purported to connect body types with intelligence (such as can be discerned from freshmen). These so-called posture pictures were not unique to Wellesley, nor to female colleges; Ivy League colleges, then all-male institutions, also mandated them.

The "uh-oh" is that the female photographs were taken nearly nude, and the male ones entirely so. Whatever effect this had on the posture, knowing that revealing photographs of oneself are out there somewhere beyond one's control ought to teach humility.

If people now want to laugh at the 1950s in general, as it seems they often do, and at Wellesley College in particular, Miss Manners would have thought this provided ample material. The fact that at the time it produced jokes, rather than protests, could illustrate the standard thesis that everyone then was gridlocked into conformity. And think of the visuals, starring innumerable current dignitaries.

But no. The new film with this thesis, "Mona Lisa Smile," passes up mentioning posture pictures for something more shocking: a scene purporting to show Wellesley students taking a course in, of all things, etiquette (and never mind that today's students of both genders are actively seeking remedial etiquette instruction).

But Wellesley did not teach etiquette. Miss Manners was there at the time, and you had better believe that she would have noticed. Even Posture and Relaxation, which served as a cover for the posture pictures, was only a mini-course in the Physical Education department, not -- more's the pity -- an area of study in which she could have captured high honors.

For one thing, the practice of etiquette is not an academic subject (nor, by Wellesley's standards, was journalism, another field into which Miss Manners later fell headfirst). The history and theory of manners are academic subjects, but even now few academics understand this element of philosophy, history, anthropology, sociology and literature.

For another thing, it would have been superfluous, as all the students, not just prissy Miss Manners, knew basic etiquette. This was not because they attended an expensive school, but because etiquette was something all children had to suffer through at home.

Innocent of the history of etiquette, the film is rife with anachronisms. Students were given the dignity of being addressed by title and surname, and faculty eschewed the title of "doctor," since their doctorates were taken for granted. "Poise" was a word associated with beauty contests, which were disdained; the term "gracious living" was said as a joke.

More deeply, the film fails to question the assumption that female students were at Wellesley to pursue marriage, when accomplishing this required an exactly equal number of males with the same goal. Whether they first establish their families and then build their careers, as then, or reverse the order, as now, does not strike Miss Manners as much of a change.

What does shock her is the realization that posing naked is hardly worth mentioning these days, but knowing how to behave is considered damning.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Dublin, Ireland?

Yeah, shocked the hell out of me, too, but it is a repeated experience. The Dubliner's I've met practicing over here have seemed pretty decent sorts.

Haven't noticed much assholishness with DCers, but in corp I've dealt mostly with regulatory compliance/public contracting types, who tend not to have the raging egos/inadequacies that fuel assholishness. Lit/lobbying/gov't ee types might be different.

A couple people mentioned US assholes in Asia - I've only dealt with one, who was pretty nice though with just one guy I can't really have an opinion, but the Asian lawyers in Asia I've dealt with have all exhibited exemplary behavior and, with a couple notable exceptions, an impressive lack of flexibility or imagination. I understand I am far from lonely in this observation.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
so some guy bellowing "never in my years of practice have I seen something like this suggested much less conceded it" just comes off as unimaginative (and probably out of date). You just want to ask "so, do you have any issues with the substance of the provision, or do you just not understand it because it isn't in your form book?"

This technique may not crossover from lit to corp very well, but recently I got that argument from opposing counsel, in front of a discovery referee, and responded "Of course, we all know that when a lawyer begins an argument with 'never in my xxx years of practice have I seen...', what he's really saying is 'I have absolutely no controlling, persuasive, or even relevant judicial or scholarly authority to support my position, so instead I will cite my own unverifiable personal experience.'"


Worked like a charm.