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[Penske_Account]

Originally Posted by John Phoenix

Other than the story of your dog, what "true" stories could you possibly mean?

Putting aside the tawdry tales of my relationship, as it is, with Hank's wife (which out of fairness to the last shreds of his sense of honour in a compromised marriage, I agreed to do), really most of them, for example, my "date" with the muslim girl tomorrow night.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Penske_Account

Putting aside the tawdry tales of my relationship, as it is, with Hank's wife (which out of fairness to the last shreds of his sense of honour in a compromised marriage, I agreed to do), really most of them, for example, my "date" with the muslim girl tomorrow night.

I was going to ask on FB today what happens if when you get together with a significant other you have about the same number of partners and experience AND THEN they leave you behind.

[Penske_Account]

Originally Posted by hank chinaski

i was going to ask on fb today what happens if when you get together with a significant other you have about the same number of partners and experience and then they leave you behind.

nwtf!?!?!

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by soup sandwich

We (big pharma co.) are actually encouraged to use IM.

We use an internal IM. All external IMs are firewalled, though.

[Atticus Grinch]

Win: Jenner & Block associate's first oral argument is before the SCOTUS. Epic fail: It was her "first" even though she's a fifth year. (Spree: It's not news; it's Above the Law.)

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Win: Jenner & Block associate's first oral argument is before the SCOTUS. Epic fail: It was her "first" even though she's a fifth year. (Spree: It's not news; it's Above the Law.)

Having failed in my duties to do pro bono work, I have never done and oral argument (although I came close last year). And I am more senior than her.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Adder

Having failed in my duties to do pro bono work, I have never done and oral argument (although I came close last year). And I am more senior than her.

Jesus, dude. I litigate a lot against pro pers. It's shit work and sometimes agonizingly stupid, but at least I can take pride in having more courtroom experience than my opponent. Interesting to know I might have to trade that in if I wanted $100K more per year.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

Having failed in my duties to do pro bono work, I have never done and oral argument (although I came close last year). And I am more senior than her.

Do one. They're fun. Best part of the job. Only part I like.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Do one. They're fun. Best part of the job. Only part I like.

that's why adder's GPs won't give them up. my first few years I worked only with IP litigators. Patent cases are too big and drawn out, so court stuff doesn't come up too often. The GPs wouldn't let us do anything, not even deps. Working with civil litigators was a very cool part of my first job shift.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

that's why adder's GPs won't give them up. my first few years I worked only with IP litigators. Patent cases are too big and drawn out, so court stuff doesn't come up too often. The GPs wouldn't let us do anything, not even deps. Working with civil litigators was a very cool part of my first job shift.

First, I wouldn't describe myself as primarily a litigator. Second, the above is basically right. There have only been something like four or five arguments total in thecases I have worked on.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

First, I wouldn't describe myself as primarily a litigator. Second, the above is basically right. There have only been something like four or five arguments total in thecases I have worked on.

I understand. All I was saying is, if you can get yourself assigned to a case where you'll get to do one, do it. It's a fun experience.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

that's why adder's GPs won't give them up. my first few years I worked only with IP litigators. Patent cases are too big and drawn out, so court stuff doesn't come up too often. The GPs wouldn't let us do anything, not even deps. Working with civil litigators was a very cool part of my first job shift.

I had the opposite experience. Partners hated having to go to court so they'd send associates as much as possible. Why I'll never understand. Prepping for and doing an oral argument or hearing is a million times more interesting than sitting behind a desk. Makes the day go buy at 10X the speed it would sitting in the office.

[Penske_Account]

Originally Posted by Adder

Having failed in my duties to do pro bono work, I have never done and oral argument (although I came close last year). And I am more senior than her.

You should take some of the time that you waste posting here and give back to your community, i.e. pro bono.

eta: ftr, fd: I did about 250 hours of pro bono last year. None of it in a courtroom, I can't stand the insufferable pricks who infest the bench.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Partners hated having to go to court so they'd send associates as much as possible.

Opposite experience. If they hated it, they hated even more the proposition of telling a client that they lost a motion and an underling did the argument. The client of course thinks the two are related, even though as we all know 90% of big firm motions are bullshit, designed more for tactical advantage and increasing the opposition's costs. And, no, I did not work at K&E or Williams and Connolly.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I had the opposite experience. Partners hated having to go to court so they'd send associates as much as possible. Why I'll never understand. Prepping for and doing an oral argument or hearing is a million times more interesting than sitting behind a desk. Makes the day go buy at 10X the speed it would sitting in the office.

it the size of cases. our stuff you are maybe on two files, your stuff many more so there is a lot more motion/argument/deps to go around.

the best instincts from an IP guy I"ve seen was this guy who switched from insurance defense to IP after 4 years. he always could point to potential land mines and what not to do to piss Judges off. Although we always just believed him. He might have been full of shit.