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01-19-2004, 12:28 PM
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,955
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I assume the NYC FBers are the exception to the rule
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
This technique may not crossover from lit to corp very well, but recently I got that argument from opposing counsel, in front of a discovery referee, and responded "Of course, we all know that when a lawyer begins an argument with 'never in my xxx years of practice have I seen...', what he's really saying is 'I have absolutely no controlling, persuasive, or even relevant judicial or scholarly authority to support my position, so instead I will cite my own unverifiable personal experience.'"
Worked like a charm.
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All ways of short-circuiting variants on the "if you can't hit the substance hit the table" strategy.
It is a bit tetchier to deal with in corp, I think, because in corp-world there aren't really many "precendents" or "regs" or other substantive authorities to ultimately fall back on - you have nothing but your experience. Therefore, someone claiming contrary relevant experience tends to hit at everyone else's insecurities in their basic competence in a way that might be different from other areas of practice. It takes some backbone to say "so what?"
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01-19-2004, 12:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
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Ticketmaster
One ticket for the North Mississippi Allstars = $20
Total price of ticket after service/transaction fees = $31.50.
Over 50% (math IS hard) more than the ticket price.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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01-19-2004, 01:10 PM
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Flaired.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out with Lumbergh.
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[sound of one hand clapping]
so it seems that many people have a holiday today. are the people here today working despite the holiday or are they like me - no firm holiday today?
it is nice and quiet today at work. no phone calls. all my clients have a holiday. time to get caught up...
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01-19-2004, 01:41 PM
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prodigal poster
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: gate 27
Posts: 2,710
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[sound of one hand clapping]
I am here and "working," meaning that I am looking for a dress for a family wedding.
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01-19-2004, 01:48 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: All American Burger
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[sound of one hand clapping]
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
so it seems that many people have a holiday today. are the people here today working despite the holiday or are they like me - no firm holiday today?
it is nice and quiet today at work. no phone calls. all my clients have a holiday. time to get caught up...
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No firm holiday here. The fact that I am also going to trial very soon doesn't help either...
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01-19-2004, 02:02 PM
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Rageaholic
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: On the margins.
Posts: 3,507
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The Empire Strikes Back
Since it's kind of slow here today, I figured I'd post this.
Microsoft sues seventeen-year-old for (I'm sure they mean) trademark infringement. (Spree: involves Canadians and geeks, but no nudity.)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ft_unhappy&e=3
Discuss.
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01-19-2004, 02:07 PM
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She Said, Let's Go!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: hollerin' for Heras
Posts: 1,781
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The Empire Strikes Back
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Originally posted by spookyfish
Since it's kind of slow here today, I figured I'd post this.
Microsoft sues seventeen-year-old for (I'm sure they mean) trademark infringement. (Spree: involves Canadians and geeks, but no nudity.)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ft_unhappy&e=3
Discuss.
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I understand Microsoft's self-protection from a legal perspective, but their in-house counsel and the management jerk who authorized and made a $10 settlement offer ought to be bitch-slapped. Or at the very least, they ought to have the decency to blush.
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01-19-2004, 02:12 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
Posts: 86,130
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The Empire Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally posted by purse junkie
I understand Microsoft's self-protection from a legal perspective, but their in-house counsel and the management jerk who authorized and made a $10 settlement offer ought to be bitch-slapped. Or at the very least, they ought to have the decency to blush.
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there was a good deal of this sort of domain name "reserving" that went on early. There are now statutes against it. no thinking company would offer much; they'd be in for a flood of follow up nuisance payments.
The kid admits he took the name to sound like Microsoft, so don't feel bad for him. I suppose, since search engines don't search by sound alike, this is benign, but still. If you screw with Microsoft, you should expect a 25 page letter from some lawfirm.
Plus, they hired my favorite firm name, Smart & Baggar.
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01-19-2004, 02:12 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 10,117
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Miss Manners reviews Mona Lisa Smiles
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Students were given the dignity of being addressed by title and surname, and faculty eschewed the title of "doctor," since their doctorates were taken for granted.
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Good rule. It also explains why people who go by "Esq." are tools.
The "only MDs go by 'doctor'" rule was also in place at my undergrad institution --- ostensibly for a historical reason having to do with one of the founders being a little sensitive about never having finished school despite notable achievements, academic and otherwise. Like all other college lore, this was likely a crock of shit.
Now, where can I get one of those posture pictures?
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01-19-2004, 02:15 PM
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She Said, Let's Go!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: hollerin' for Heras
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Miss Manners reviews Mona Lisa Smiles
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Good rule. It also explains why people who go by "Esq." are tools.
The "only MDs go by 'doctor'" rule was also in place at my undergrad institution --- ostensibly for a historical reason having to do with one of the founders being a little sensitive about never having finished school despite notable achievements, academic and otherwise. Like all other college lore, this was likely a crock of shit.
Now, where can I get one of those posture pictures?
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I believe "Dr. Laura" took a similar hit from actual psychiatrists for having a non-medical doctorate yet happily implying she had one.
That, and Dr. Morality's nude photos. But I can't imagine you'd want to get one of those.
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01-19-2004, 02:18 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
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Miss Manners reviews Mona Lisa Smiles
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Now, where can I get one of those posture pictures?
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Funny you should ask. Just this weekend I bought a large lot of them from a Brown "clean out the archives" sale. Of course the one of your mother I'm sending to you, for the sake of decorum*. I am going to post your "auntie" on the webpage "everwonderwhatdebslookedlikebackinthedaynaked.com" Unless her family gives me 10000, of course.
* stain was there when I got it.
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01-19-2004, 02:24 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In a teeny, tiny, little office
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[sound of one hand clapping]
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
so it seems that many people have a holiday today. are the people here today working despite the holiday or are they like me - no firm holiday today?
it is nice and quiet today at work. no phone calls. all my clients have a holiday. time to get caught up...
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No holiday here. I'm just actually trying to get some things out the door. That, and I have nothing to ass.
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01-19-2004, 02:28 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Miss Manners reviews Mona Lisa Smiles
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Funny you should ask. Just this weekend I bought a large lot of them from a Brown "clean out the archives" sale. Of course the one of your mother I'm sending to you, for the sake of decorum*. I am going to post your "auntie" on the webpage "everwonderwhatdebslookedlikebackinthedaynaked.com" Unless her family gives me 10000, of course.
* stain was there when I got it.
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I'd write you a nasty letter on behalf of her family, but I think we should wait for the Smart one to do that.
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01-19-2004, 02:33 PM
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Puck You
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Surrounded by idiots and assholes.
Posts: 1,076
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Miss Manners reviews Mona Lisa Smiles
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Originally posted by purse junkie
I believe "Dr. Laura" took a similar hit from actual psychiatrists for having a non-medical doctorate yet happily implying she had one.
That, and Dr. Morality's nude photos. But I can't imagine you'd want to get one of those.
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Almost every state has a law stating that only licensed physicians can use terms like "Dr.," "M.D." "Doctor" etc. It has often pissed me off when people who are not physicians use it -- I work in the healthcare industry and I need to find out if they really are or not and have, on more than one occasion, had to chastise a non-licensed individual for using "Dr." on em's business cards, etc.
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01-19-2004, 02:48 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
Posts: 26,207
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I assume the NYC FBers are the exception to the rule
Quote:
Originally posted by Sidd Finch
This technique may not crossover from lit to corp very well, but recently I got that argument from opposing counsel, in front of a discovery referee, and responded "Of course, we all know that when a lawyer begins an argument with 'never in my xxx years of practice have I seen...', what he's really saying is 'I have absolutely no controlling, persuasive, or even relevant judicial or scholarly authority to support my position, so instead I will cite my own unverifiable personal experience.'"
Worked like a charm.
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Judges hate that grandstanding horseshit. I had this happen about two weeks ago. Some asshole harrumphed "Youuuur honor, I havenever seen anyone raise so many unfounded objections during a deposition. He interrupted and didn't let his client answer anything." Judge said "Well, isn't that his job? And isn't it your job to rephrase to avoid the objection? Why are you here?" That pretty much ended the motion right there. I chose not to even raise a rebuttal.
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