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Old 04-15-2005, 04:24 PM   #2011
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Anyway, if that guy or the guy who he got his seats is losing his season tickets, that's a sufficient punishment. Can you imagine having someone give you some great seats for the night and then permanently losing that guy his season tickets?
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Old 04-15-2005, 04:24 PM   #2012
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By the way, can you imagine the intensity on the field during Sox/Yankees if Piniella was our manager? I can tell you that our guys wouldn't keep getting hit without some retaliation. That's for sure.

Torre downplays the rivalry. Piniella would fuel it.

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Old 04-15-2005, 04:27 PM   #2013
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By the way, can you imagine the intensity on the field during Sox/Yankees if Piniella was our manager? I can tell you that our guys wouldn't keep getting hit without some retaliation. That's for sure.

Torre downplays the rivalry. Piniella would fuel it.

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That it is a scary thought. Jimy would have fueled it to. Last night would have been an all out brawl. Hell, A-Rod's slap in the playoffs last year would have emptied the benches. Maybe these kinder gentler managers are a good thing.
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Old 04-15-2005, 04:29 PM   #2014
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Usually it's bilmore putting stupid words in my mouth over there, though Hank does it too sometimes. I said that the fan "deserved to be tossed out" for trying to interfere with play, that he "came too close to Sheffield's face," and that Sheffield "understandably took exception."

When you're inside the wall and the ball is on the ground, you can't see it. I think the guy reached over in the hopes that he could catch it, maybe if it bounced up. I suspect he wasn't watching Sheffield, but the ball. Varitek hit a rope. And it just didn't look to me like he was taking a swing a Sheffield. Then again, I was 3,000 miles away.
Go read www.bostondirtdogs.com

"While some friendly House calls are rolling into WEEI to defend their friend, season ticket holders are also calling in with damaging tales regarding the seven-ticket season ticket holder and former Curry College football coach's trouble making, fight picking, and excessive drinking in the seven seats he holds tickets for."

"House told girlfriend he was "going for the ball." But his friend who "spoke to Chris this morning" tells WEEI's Dennis & Callahan that House told him he was "doing the windmill" to wave the runners around. Yeah right. Delusionial fanboys say he was trying to catch his friend who looked like he was falling on the field. Or maybe House was telling the other fans to pull their hands up (even though the ball was right in front of Chris at that point and well past other fans). Spin city continues for townie who got caught taking a sneaky cheap shot on Sheff"

"This is what happens when Red Sox Nation "cardholders," who don't know enough to keep their hands in the stands, go to games instead of real baseball fans, who can't get tickets to Fenway anymore.

Sheff should have clocked the assclown who, even if Sox fanboys and girls blindly give the punk the benefit of the doubt, was trying to turn Tek's triple into a double at best. Inexcusable. Ban him from Fenway for two years."

'"He just said he was going for the ball."
-- Chris House's dilusional fiancee in denial'

"At first he (the fan) is (looking right down at Sheffield), but by the time he's completed the swipe he's looking toward the field because, IMO, he's pretending to be oblivious to the fact that a major league baseball play is taking place directly in front of him. The guy did it on purpose. Period. It would take some serious speculative ability to make the case that it was unintentional. Watch the video. It's obvious." -- Arock78 on SoSH

'According to fan Chris Lyons, 19, of Milton, who was sitting nearby, "(House) definitely tried to hit him. You could tell. And right away, Gary looked up and went nuts." -- Boston Herald, Michael Silverman'

And on the beer throwing guy:

"I'm definitely in your corner as far as House goes, but I've got to disagree with your assessment on the guy in the GAP sweatshirt. Yes, he had a girl next to him, but she wasn't what made him spill his beer on Sheffield. I suggest you watch clip on mlb.com and take a closer look, particularly to the footage at the 2:40 mark. Gap Guy takes a sip of his beer, sees Sheffield in front of him and jerks his wrist forward, projecting the wrest of the cups remains onto Sheffield's jersey.

Furthermore, you'll notice that while the woman in the white gloves had her arm wrapped around GAP Guys, at the time of the beer spilling, she was NOT making contact with him. The thrust of the cup forward was WAY too much for it to be caused by the girl pulling back on him (which she didn't even do until AFTER the beer was tossed).

In closing, both GAP Guy and the other guy are complete jerks and I hope they are never allowed into Fenway Park again."

-- Dan

"The G.A.P. guy clearly flicked his beer onto Sheffield's back; it wasn't forced out of his cup by the girl pulling him back. Take a look at the tape again. If he has season tix, his should be lifted just like that galumph Chris House's unlucky 7."
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PS - "Chris [House] Avoids the Big House as Sox Won't Press Charges Against Phony Fan. Video, Spin Control Too Tough for Boston Brass to Challenge"
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Oh for christ's sake, you petulant, arrogant motherfucker, I know what a jab is. Once he had the ball in his hand, he had the whole field into which he could take a quick step before he threw the ball. That's certainly faster than pushing/jabbing/whatever at some guy. He obviously didn't completely lose it and haul off and punch the guy before he threw the ball, but it looked to me like might have if he didn't have getting rid of the ball on his mind.

What he did do was, with his hands together and without making a fist, push vigorously towards the guy's face/neck/chin area. He didn't really connect very much, but it looked to me like he was retaliating and trying to do so; he just was lucky that the fan was backing up. It was a straight-on, direct offensive move; that's what a jab is.
You really are an idiot.

A jab is a quick, short, straight punch. He pushed the guy with the both hands, only connecting with his mitt. Like I said at least three times, he was reacting to being hit in the face. His reaction was to push the guy away from him. Saying you saw a jab of any kind (and the open-palm variety is a new one to me) is flat-out wrong.

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I don't think that it was unwarranted or beyond a reasonable response to that situation, but don't try to claim that wasn't a little bit of malice in his action towards that guy. He was trying, some half-heartedly (probably as the Artest brawl and consequences flashed through his head), to clock the guy. It's not like he hasn't demonstrated this kind of lack of restraint in the past.
It is so obvious that you are a complete pussy. Of course he was pissed off. Of course he wanted to clock the guy. He just got hit in the face. He turned and tried to shove him. Hard. The point I'm making is that that is a natural reaction and I believe 99% of the players in the league (or the people on this earth) would have done the same. Whatever his history of lack of restraint is (and I'm pretty sure you're only going from the example you read here earlier) doesn't matter. He showed it here. He was pissed and was going to beat the guy's ass and decided not to.

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Anyway, if that guy or the guy who he got his seats is losing his season tickets, that's a sufficient punishment. Can you imagine having someone give you some great seats for the night and then permanently losing that guy his season tickets?
No it's not. He should be prosecuted. Losing your seats has proven to be not much of a deterrent.

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No.

By the way, can you imagine the intensity on the field during Sox/Yankees if Piniella was our manager? I can tell you that our guys wouldn't keep getting hit without some retaliation. That's for sure.

Torre downplays the rivalry. Piniella would fuel it.

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Sure. Maybe he gets you to win 116 games and all, but you'll be 3 and out in the first round of the playoffs. Sweet Lou, like George Karl, can't win the big one.
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Old 04-15-2005, 04:46 PM   #2018
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I think it's funny how the internet makes people like you think that they are really tough in real life. You wouldn't say that to me in person. And, except for your little hissyfit about the definition of jab, you've agreed with me on everything. Shut up.
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You really are an idiot.

A jab is a quick, short, straight punch. He pushed the guy with the both hands, only connecting with his mitt. Like I said at least three times, he was reacting to being hit in the face. His reaction was to push the guy away from him. Saying you saw a jab of any kind (and the open-palm variety is a new one to me) is flat-out wrong.

It is so obvious that you are a complete pussy. Of course he was pissed off. Of course he wanted to clock the guy. He just got hit in the face. He turned and tried to shove him. Hard. The point I'm making is that that is a natural reaction and I believe 99% of the players in the league (or the people on this earth) would have done the same. Whatever his history of lack of restraint is (and I'm pretty sure you're only going from the example you read here earlier) doesn't matter. He showed it here. He was pissed and was going to beat the guy's ass and decided not to.

No it's not. He should be prosecuted. Losing your seats has proven to be not much of a deterrent.

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Old 04-15-2005, 04:55 PM   #2022
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I think it's funny how the internet makes people like you think that they are really tough in real life. You wouldn't say that to me in person. And, except for your little hissyfit about the definition of jab, you've agreed with me on everything. Shut up.
Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

The Crankees' fans and their hissyfittin' is what's ruining America's greatest pasttime. The Yankees are an insightly blight on professional sports-a perverse frankee-stein monster created with Steinbrenner's ill-gotten wealth. Their fans are like that fat rich German kid from Willie Wonka who wants more and more chocolate to stuff in his big fat mouth and have to hit daddy up to buy it for them.

I prefer a down to earth crew of ballplayers who play for the love of the game, old school style, where the team takes primacy over the individual players. Like the World Champion Red Sox.
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