Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by the Spartan
SS was posting about the love with Slave that dare not speaketh its name. A sad commentary to leagl's legacy here that such a progressive open statement of one poster's love for another was unceremoniously squashed. npi.

Paigow's off limits now?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by the Spartan
SS was posting about the love with Slave that dare not speaketh its name. A sad commentary to leagl's legacy here that such a progressive open statement of one poster's love for another was unceremoniously squashed. npi.

I was led to believe it was a two-way street. Or a street that goes both ways, or something like that.

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
No, people are being denied a cure because the President has made a moral decision in line with the religious views of a small but vocal minority. This is not about controlling the debate -- we have plenty of that -- it's about federal policy.

What's small? Also, why are you leftwingers so intolerant and disrespectful of all religious beliefs except those of the radical islamists? Finally, where is appropriate for the federal government to draw its funding lines? I have know some people who died of a type of cancer that has received less federal funding that stem cell research-why? Didn't they deserve to live? I have a child that has a genetic disorder that other children have died of that has received no federal funding-why? Didn't those poor kids deserve to live? The left needs to stop distorting this issue. Between the Clintons and Kerry its one lie after another.

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by bilmore
Paigow's off limits now?

I miss her [sniff]

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
RT surely knows better than I do, but I can't believe most insurance will pay for that for very long, and most people don't have that kind of money.

Well, then your SOL.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

What's small?

I have it on good authority that most religious fundamentalists in this country are, in fact, midgets. BOTD!

Also, why are you leftwingers so intolerant and disrespectful of all religious beliefs except those of the radical islamists?

I suspect I go to church more often than you do. That would be a fun debate to have, no?

Finally, where is appropriate for the federal government to draw its funding lines?

This is kinda a stupid question, so put, no offense, so Wonk has my proxy on it.

I have know some people who died of a type of cancer that has received less federal funding that stem cell research-why?

Our government has some serious people working for it who try to allocate research money so that it will do the greatest good for the most. And then sometimes their decisions are thrown out the window for ideological/religious/political reasons.

Didn't they deserve to live?

Yes, unless they were Islamic terrorists.

I have a child that has a genetic disorder that other children have died of that has received no federal funding-why?

I don't know. That sounds very unfortunate in all sorts of ways.

Didn't those poor kids deserve to live?

Yes.

The left needs to stop distorting this issue.

Where's the distortion? Maybe stem-cell research would help these poor kids. Let's elect a new President so we can find out.

Between the Clintons and Kerry its one lie after another.

Sure, that follows.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Well, then your SOL.

No, I would be SOL if we lived in your anarcho-libertarian fantasyland, but since we live in a democracy where most people favor having a safety net, I would as OK as I'm likely to be, barring the whole thing about being in a vegetative state and all.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by bilmore
My National Guard dollars are being spent on devastated Floridians as we speak. A direct transfer to them, basically.

My Border Patrol monies mostly protect residents of vulnerable border states.

My military expenditures in Afghanistan are primarily protecting people who live on the coasts, in big cities. Think Osama is ever going to target Minnesota?

I think you artifically make your distinction more . . . distinct.

I'm talking about direct payments as a benefit , not some mushily defined services derived benefit. And in that vain, the Florida $ is questionnably moral.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
You have my point wrong. I said nothing about on someone else's dime. But I do think that I have a right to be kept in a vegetable state on my own (or my insurers) dime.

No offence, but I don't think you're really talking about a "right" anymore.

If you're really talking about limiting your life support to your dime, I doubt the state or anyone else will care about how you, in your vegetative state, choose to spend your remaining resources.

Again, this is a good feature for the fortified villa. I'm sure that you can have a separate room dedicated to it, in which you can store the equipment.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Well, then your SOL.

What happens when the embryos stop paying their bills?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
No, I would be SOL if we lived in your anarcho-libertarian fantasyland, but since we live in a democracy where most people favor having a safety net, I would as OK as I'm likely to be, barring the whole thing about being in a vegetative state and all.

Libertarian fantasyland I don't quibble with. But who said anything about anarchy? See that's the basic difference between us. You believe that without the government stepping in on these matters there'd be anarchy. I don't, I think we would all form whatever associations we believed necessary to fill the void.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm talking about direct payments as a benefit , not some mushily defined services derived benefit. And in that vain, the Florida $ is questionnably moral.

So, welfare mom with five kids gets my bucks. She gets to live in a real dwelling, and the kids get to attend a school for more than a week at a time, and they are well-nourished while doing so. They are off the streets, not committing crimes, to my benefit. They become more attuned to a productive life, to my benefit ('cuz maybe I won't have to support THEIR kids). They get trained and go out and work, contributing taxes and productivity, to my general benefit.

It's no bright-line thing. It's never "she got the money, and so she was the ONLY beneficiary of my largesse."

[the Spartan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What's small?

I have it on good authority that most religious fundamentalists in this country are, in fact, midgets. BOTD!

Also, why are you leftwingers so intolerant and disrespectful of all religious beliefs except those of the radical islamists?

I suspect I go to church more often than you do. That would be a fun debate to have, no?

Finally, where is appropriate for the federal government to draw its funding lines?

This is kinda a stupid question, so put, no offense, so Wonk has my proxy on it.

I have know some people who died of a type of cancer that has received less federal funding that stem cell research-why?

Our government has some serious people working for it who try to allocate research money so that it will do the greatest good for the most. And then sometimes their decisions are thrown out the window for ideological/religious/political reasons.

Didn't they deserve to live?

Yes, unless they were Islamic terrorists.

I have a child that has a genetic disorder that other children have died of that has received no federal funding-why?

I don't know. That sounds very unfortunate in all sorts of ways.

Didn't those poor kids deserve to live?

Yes.

The left needs to stop distorting this issue.

Where's the distortion? Maybe stem-cell research would help these poor kids. Let's elect a new President so we can find out.
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Between the Clintons and Kerry and their apologists its one lie after another.


eta: i don't go to church, i don't believe in organized religion, but i don't disrespect other's belief in the sanctity of human life-unless the life in question is Hillary's-I cannot indulge Satan's spawn

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I think we would all form whatever associations we believed necessary to fill the void.

Isn't that what we've done?

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Libertarian fantasyland I don't quibble with. But who said anything about anarchy? \

One of my socks, once. We have to justify the cost of the personal defence arsenal we have amassed.