Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Gattigap]

[whistle]

Hey! Look over here!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am ready to come home. The dims tent is too small, parochial and inhospitable for me.

Hey, hold up a sec. I didn't get a chance to show you where they're pouring the good zins.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
You're ducking the questions, Penske. You have proclaimed for years to be more principled and more moral and superior to the Democrats (under a number of generalities designed to inflame rather than stimulate serious debate).

Either admit you're in checkmate of make your next move. After all, by your own assertion, the very soul of the American People is at stake.

Its sad that you would go to such great lengths to denigrate religion and dumb down morality. You are better than this.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Kennedy for one. Clintons are suspect for two.

So are you suggesting that the Kennedys and the Clintons are coming personally for your property? And are you further stating that you are justified under the Second Amendment to use deadly force of arms to fend off this dread invasion from the East? How can you reconcile this with the fact that all killing is an absolute wrong?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Hey, hold up a sec. I didn't get a chance to show you where they're pouring the good zins.

Make me an offer I can't refuse.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
So are you suggesting that the Kennedys and the Clintons are coming personally for your property? And are you further stating that you are justified under the Second Amendment to use deadly force of arms to fend off this dread invasion from the East? How can you reconcile this with the fact that all killing is an absolute wrong?

This post makes no sense. I am suggesting that Kennedy is a killer. And Clinton is a person of interest in a few killings. How that relates to anything else you wrote I don't know. Why would you want to defend there defenseless misdeeds? Do you approve of rape and murder?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell.

Assuming the premise, you certainly can deny. God knows anyway. He will judge you.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Assuming the premise, you certainly can deny. God knows anyway. He will judge you.

I'm down wit dat.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Under oath, it's absolutely wrong.

So then lying, when one has sworn to God to tell the trusth is an absolute wrong, but lying in general is a relative wrong?

Okay, scorecard so far:

1. Killing is an absolute wrong, but you can't admit it because it creates too much of a cultural dissonance for you. I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that logic dictates in a debate of positivism versus relativism, ties go to relativism.

2. Rape is an absolute wrong.

3. Lying is a relative wrong, unless you take the Lord's name in vain when you do so.

It's been slow, and a bit painful, but I think we're making progress here.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Although that's still 1000 short of the blood on Clinton's hands from his testing of the theory of "complete abdication of duty to national security for 8 years".

Shame on you, Penske. Killing is an absolute wrong, remember. Whether you are responsible for the taking of one life or a million, you are a sinner under your rules.

Or are you revisiting that absolute thing?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
So? That does not mean that their God supplanted the real One.

You haven't yet offered up an support for an absolute God. As of this point, there is no One real one.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
So then lying, when one has sworn to God to tell the trusth is an absolute wrong, but lying in general is a relative wrong?

Okay, scorecard so far:

1. Killing is an absolute wrong, but you can't admit it because it creates too much of a cultural dissonance for you. I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that logic dictates in a debate of positivism versus relativism, ties go to relativism.

2. Rape is an absolute wrong.

3. Lying is a relative wrong, unless you take the Lord's name in vain when you do so.

It's been slow, and a bit painful, but I think we're making progress here.

I didn't say lying was a relative wrong. I solely said lying under oath is absolutely wrong.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Shame on you, Penske. Killing is an absolute wrong, remember. Whether you are responsible for the taking of one life or a million, you are a sinner under your rules.

Or are you revisiting that absolute thing?

I didn't say there was anything not wrong about taking any lives in particular, I was just pointing out that assuming Bush is responsible for 2000 deaths, his predecessor was responsible for 3000, which is 1000 more wrong.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I don't think cares as long as people are married.

Does that mean that the Republican Party is wrong because they treat homosexuality as an absolute wrong, or does it make them wrong because they oppose gay marriage, or is the Republican Party wrong on both counts?

And since they are presuming to declare as an absolute, in the eyes of God, something that God himself doesn't view as an absolute wrong, does that make the Republican Party absolutely wrong?

[bilmore]

"President George W. Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals"

Gawd told me to take Friday off.

I'm sure glad Gawd only ever tells me to do things I already wanna do.