Still Hating America. - Page 138

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-06-2007, 12:40 PM

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I think there are any number of elder statemens amongst the republicans who would have no problem getting confirmed (Bob Dole? Warren Rudman? Sam Nun?), although James Baker would seem like a good bet.

But you are right, none would likely have much influence, which would be the normal state of things.

James Baker is too close to 41, no?

Dole maybe sounds right. Too old to want to do it now? Rudman seems to much the independent voice -- too much danger that he'd use the platform to embarass the President on spending? Nunn is a Democrat, and that won't work with a 51-49 Senate.

Jack Kemp?

Colin Powell? Bush could bring him in and then ignore his advice, just like old times.

Replaced_Texan · 03-06-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
James Baker is too close to 41, no?

Dole maybe sounds right. Too old to want to do it now? Rudman seems to much the independent voice -- too much danger that he'd use the platform to embarass the President on spending? Nunn is a Democrat, and that won't work with a 51-49 Senate.

Jack Kemp?

Colin Powell? Bush could bring him in and then ignore his advice, just like old times.

Dole's out. He's looking into the Walter Reed fiasco with Donna Shalala. It'll take him months to sort that shit out.

The whole thing just pisses me off every time I think about it. Especially given that the VA gives some of the best healthcare in the country (spree: long article, but very good).

Gattigap · 03-06-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Dole's out. He's looking into the Walter Reed fiasco with Donna Shalala. It'll take him months to sort that shit out.

The whole thing just pisses me off every time I think about it. Especially given that the VA gives some of the best healthcare in the country (spree: long article, but very good).

One of the distinctions that I didn't know about before all this happened is that Walter Reed isn't a VA hospital, it's an Army hospital. Which, I suppose, is one of the reasons that Army personnel are getting canned over it.

Adder · 03-06-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Nunn is a Democrat, and that won't work with a 51-49 Senate.

Hm.. who am I confusing Nunn with then? I'm not sure.

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Jack Kemp?

Colin Powell? Bush could bring him in and then ignore his advice, just like old times.

I doubt Powell would do it, but Kemp probably would.

Anyway, this is idle speculation as the Dark One's devil with the devil can't have expired yet.

Adder · 03-06-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Dole's out. He's looking into the Walter Reed fiasco with Donna Shalala. It'll take him months to sort that shit out.

The whole thing just pisses me off every time I think about it. Especially given that the VA gives some of the best healthcare in the country (spree: long article, but very good).

Given that Cheney' ain't dead yet, this may actually make Dole more likely.

Sidd Finch · 03-06-2007, 12:59 PM

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I'm sort of amazed at how unsurprising I find this. (spree: WaPo article saying that there is no contingency plan if things don't work out as the President hopes in Iraq)

Silly girl. Even thinking about doing anything but staying the course will embolden the terrorists.

Replaced_Texan · 03-06-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
One of the distinctions that I didn't know about before all this happened is that Walter Reed isn't a VA hospital, it's an Army hospital. Which, I suppose, is one of the reasons that Army personnel are getting canned over it.

Yeah. If you read that article, the author goes to the VA Medical Center in DC, and it reads like the exact opposite of the WaPo reports from two weeks ago.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-06-2007, 01:04 PM

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eta: If you are trying to boost the ranks of Rs with good resumes, I don't think you do it by publicly firing sitting USAs. Instead you call and discretely ask them to resign so someone else can have a turn, allowing them to move on like it was their idea.

Certainly didn't help Tim Griffin, who no doubt would have been fine if Cummins had resigned gracefully and his appointment had less of a a partisan hackery feel to it.

Replaced_Texan · 03-06-2007, 01:20 PM

So I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby is guilty. I figured it'd go the other way with that "reasonable doubt" question. Interesting.

Adder · 03-06-2007, 01:21 PM

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby has been found guilty on four of five counts in his perjury and obstruction of justice trial.

So much for the theory that a long deliberation is good.

How long before the pardon?

link

eta: Damn you, RT.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-06-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
So I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby is guilty. I figured it'd go the other way with that "reasonable doubt" question. Interesting.

I didn't

BTW, what's next? Claims that of course this would be the result with a D.C. jury?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-06-2007, 01:36 PM

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How long before the pardon?

1 year, 10 months, 17 days, and a few hours.

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-06-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
1 year, 10 months, 17 days, and a few hours.

What the odds that his sentence will last that long?

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-06-2007, 01:42 PM

This post was almost instantly obsolete.

eta: Or maybe not. I've been tied up this morning, but it sounds like the Senate hearings have been chock full o' wild stuff.

SlaveNoMore · 03-06-2007, 01:55 PM

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Replaced_Texan
So I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby is guilty. I figured it'd go the other way with that "reasonable doubt" question. Interesting.

If he flees as a fugitive to Switzerland, and his wife gives a lot of dough to the National Party, do you think he'll get pardoned?

I hear there is some precedent for this.