Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
Bite your tongue, you musically-challenged barbarian.

(ETA) And there's my flight.

If it makes you feel any better, I'm getting IMmed with song lyrics.

"Morning has brooooo-kennnnnnn....."
"Kill all the infidel noooooooo-velistssssssss....."

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Okay, to be fair, you stop filibustering judges and let them up for votes, and we'll stop with the pledge silliness. Deal?

Deal. Does that mean that all judges appointed by a Dem president will be put up for a vote by a Repub senate? Or is the "Clinton exception" still in effect?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
At least let's go back to the old-school honest-to-goodness fillibuster, which lasts for days and literally shuts down all other business.

It's this "fillibuster-lite" BS that is the problem.

I agree. If you're going to fillibuster, you should be ready to talk for a looooooooooong time. Which means that you shouldn't threaten to do it if it's a BS issue. Fillibuster a wingnut district judge nominee? She'd have to be a fricken Yankee fan for me to do that. Supreme Court, on the other hand...

But isn't that the responsibility of the presiding officer? (This is a serious question.) Can't they get it to the floor and have Cheney make 'em keep talking? Call their bluffs, dammit. Let's see if we got any Stroms or Harry Byrd left in the Senate.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The niceties of "Peace Train" aside, when you refer to him as Yusef Islam and look at the anti-West comments he's made over the years (and his verbal support of the fatwah for the death of Salman Rushdie), it makes perfect sense to me.

Wow. First, I agree with just about everything Pat Buchanan says on the Daily Show.* Now, I agree with something Slave says on one of his wackier days. Indeed, wonders will never cease.


*I'm a little behind. My TiVo runneth over. Sue me.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Cite please.

Oh, be serious. (That's Obewan Kenobe's dad, I think.) Cite to the fact that this election is dominated by the ABB faction?

That's like:

Me: "The sun'll come up . . . tomorrow . . ."

You: "Cite, please."

(Cool. If you volunteer to leave two hours later, and no one else does, you can bargain them up to three free tickets.)

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Fillibuster a wingnut district judge nominee? She'd have to be a fricken Yankee fan for me to do that. Supreme Court, on the other hand...

Bush winning will be just fine. But, for these kinds of reasons, you guys had damn well better get some legislators in the win column. I can't believe the ads haven't started yet - "Okay, Kerry's toast, but HERE'S why you still need to get out and vote . . . "

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Deal. Does that mean that all judges appointed by a Dem president will be put up for a vote by a Repub senate? Or is the "Clinton exception" still in effect?

If I remember correctly, all Clinton nominees who made it out of committee got a vote.

[SlaveNoMore]

bilmore
Cite to the fact that this election is dominated by the ABB faction?

Roger Simon seems to think that Kerry is quickly generating an equally large ABK base

link

• By finally adopting the reactionary "Dean Line" (well, not finally, there's no such thing with him) on Iraq, Kerry has placed himself in the position of having to root against the forces of democracy in that country, at least until the November election. He must hope for continued slaughter, beheadings and the like from the rag-tag collection of homicidal sociopaths and paleo-misogynists - Baathist and Islamist - that constitute the "insurgents" in order to defeat Bush, so is acting accordingly. Barely was Allawi's speech out of the interim PM's mouth when Kerry informed us, in the opinion of one of the two major presidential candidates in the most powerful country on Earth, there would be no January election in Iraq. (From your lips to Zarqawi's burning ears, Senator.)
  
  Leaving aside whatever moral evaluation we could make of those remarks - that is, after all, a personal matter - what if Kerry wins using this rhetoric? What will he do when confronted with decisions to make on Iraq? Will he help them hold an election? If not, will he withdraw our troops? Will he defend the majority of Iraqis who favor democracy? He hasn't told the public - ours or theirs. I doubt he knows himself. But it could be worse, far worse, than what happened in Vietnam after we left.
  
  No, I take it back. I will make a moral evaluation. It's inescapable. One word: shameful.

If Kerry keeps making comments like this, this President could be the first since Reagan to win a majority vote.

[bilmore]

I earlier posted that a certain confluence of events showed deep Dem involvement with Rather's Rewrites.

Since then, a blogger says he misunderstood another. The timing was off. There is no such controversy.

But, it would have been fun. It could have been another week talking about everything but Kerry's positions.

Ah, well.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If Kerry keeps making comments like this, this President could be the first since Reagan to win a majority vote.

Earlier, I had Kerry at a 75% chance.

You objected.

You were right.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

"I agree, I'm not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America where it's nice and safe and secure."

-- George W. Bush, September 23

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
"I agree, I'm not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America where it's nice and safe and secure."

-- George W. Bush, September 23

Yes, this all during a press conference where the media idiots were asking the President what the people of Iraq think - and Bush embarrassed all of them by pointing at Allawi and telling them to ask him, seeing he lives there and he's their PM.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

"Shhhh. Now, now. Don't fret. Kerry isn't going to get a chance to get us all killed. We've got this election in the bag"

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

"I love you too, Ms. Reno,"