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Old 07-28-2005, 10:45 PM   #196
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They have a three stage rocket. You obviously haven't been paying attention but I posted a bunch of links before where both the Pentagon and the CIA said that North Korea could hit the Western Seaboard. I think I also quoted George Tenet responding to a direct question from Hillary Clinton that they could hit anywhere in the continental United States.
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Spanky, you know I adore you, but of course they "could" hit the West Coast or even further out. The question is more whether they would actually send an ICBM at one of the few countries that can help feed their people (i.e. soldiers). I haven't been to N. Korea, but I've recently been to the DMZ and Seoul, and folks there have way more reason to be nervous. Kim Il Sung is nuts (as I would be with that hair cut, but that's a topic for another board), but sponsoring SDI because of N. Korea? Eh ... I could get behind it for other reasons, maybe, but not that.
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Spanky, you know I adore you, but of course they "could" hit the West Coast or even further out. The question is more whether they would actually send an ICBM at one of the few countries that can help feed their people (i.e. soldiers). I haven't been to N. Korea, but I've recently been to the DMZ and Seoul, and folks there have way more reason to be nervous. Kim Il Sung is nuts (as I would be with that hair cut, but that's a topic for another board), but sponsoring SDI because of N. Korea? Eh ... I could get behind it for other reasons, maybe, but not that.
when Hillary gets in she's likely to give missile and nuke technology to other countries and we'll need to be ready before then.
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when Hillary gets in she's likely to give missile and nuke technology to other countries and we'll need to be ready before then.
What do you mean by "likely"?
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So what is the motivation for Frist to break with Bush on Stem Cells?

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So what is the motivation for Frist to break with Bush on Stem Cells?

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So what is the motivation for Frist to break with Bush on Stem Cells?

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Better polling?

Or the difference between forward looking and backward looking payoffs?

It certainly doesn't play to Frist's core constituency, unless he senses that core has changed.

(also, he's a doc, so might have a more sophisticated view of what's going on--maybe there's a non-cynical, vaguely intellectual justification for it).
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Old 07-29-2005, 11:07 AM   #204
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http://www.nysun.com/article/17686

The Egyptians that were accidentally injured by the bombers who wanted to kill tourists were interviewed. Here's the problem with the moderate muslim world solving the terrorism problem- they think it was Jews and the US blowing ourselves up.

Ty- what does France think we should do about it?
  • These guys are the typical "moderate Muslim" that the holy rage of the jihadists destroys with fury, the one infected by the contact with the West and also the one that in our Western dreams and in many European and American experts' analyses should suddenly rise against the extreme Islam, their enemy.

    So, let's test this thesis and ask: "Do they hate terrorists?" The answer is "Yes, very much so," and they really do, - they close their fists and watch in rage and repeat to me that they deeply hope that Mr. Mubarak will catch them all, will put them in prison, will kill them. Are they ready to fight them? Yes, at every level, with their hands, if requested, and with demonstrations that actually, while I'm in Sharm, suddenly appear in the hot streets and just in front of the cameras of the international press: "Down with terrorism," "We are against terrorism"...

    But then, if it's so, why can the great moderate Muslim world not really fight their own enemy? They themselves give me the answers: "Bin Laden? The Muslim Brotherhood? Certainly the terrorist attacks are not their work, no! This is a lie. A Muslim could never do this. And if they say they do it in the name of Islam, they are not Islamic; or, most likely, this shows, like the television says, that someone uses the name of Islam just to hide the real perpetrators."

    Anyhow, Islam is out of the question, And then, we ask again, who is behind the attacks? Well, you know the answer, they smile with a smart expression. Mahmoud, who comes from a periphery of Cairo, where he now cannot go back because he doesn't have the money for a bus ticket, knows the answer, and so do all his other friends, about 10, all from the same town, now all together as one, standing in the corridor of the Hospital of Sharm, no air-conditioning, their friend Khaled in bed with a wound in his back ("I was lucky. Nadem had both of his legs amputated," Khaled says).

    They know the answer, yes: the television said that only the Israelis and the Americans have a real interest in seeing Egypt on its knees; General Fuad Allam said that the perpetrators of the Taba attack of October 2004 were apparently linked to the Israeli security forces, and so, supposedly, it is today. Also Al-Jazeera and even Al-Arabia interviewed "experts" to confirm this point of view. A big, beautiful guy with a red T-shirt just puts it down bluntly: "We know only what the television tells us."
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http://www.nysun.com/article/17686

The Egyptians that were accidentally injured by the bombers who wanted to kill tourists were interviewed. Here's the problem with the moderate muslim world solving the terrorism problem- they think it was Jews and the US blowing ourselves up.
I assume that you have already seen the link on lgf tying the "moderate clerics" in the USA (who issued the fatwa yesterday codemning terrorism and suicide bombing) to terrorist groups?

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Ty- what does France think we should do about it?
Alors, fiches-moi la paix.
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A big, beautiful guy with a red T-shirt just puts it down bluntly: "We know only what the television tells us."
This could apply to any Cairo.
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???? "Then, cards me peace" ????????
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Better polling?

Or the difference between forward looking and backward looking payoffs?

It certainly doesn't play to Frist's core constituency, unless he senses that core has changed.

(also, he's a doc, so might have a more sophisticated view of what's going on--maybe there's a non-cynical, vaguely intellectual justification for it).
Right. Like his sophisticated opinions on Terri Shiavo.
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:11 PM   #210
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http://www.nysun.com/article/17686

The Egyptians that were accidentally injured by the bombers who wanted to kill tourists were interviewed. Here's the problem with the moderate muslim world solving the terrorism problem- they think it was Jews and the US blowing ourselves up.

Ty- what does France think we should do about it?
  • These guys are the typical "moderate Muslim" that the holy rage of the jihadists destroys with fury, the one infected by the contact with the West and also the one that in our Western dreams and in many European and American experts' analyses should suddenly rise against the extreme Islam, their enemy.

    So, let's test this thesis and ask: "Do they hate terrorists?" The answer is "Yes, very much so," and they really do, - they close their fists and watch in rage and repeat to me that they deeply hope that Mr. Mubarak will catch them all, will put them in prison, will kill them. Are they ready to fight them? Yes, at every level, with their hands, if requested, and with demonstrations that actually, while I'm in Sharm, suddenly appear in the hot streets and just in front of the cameras of the international press: "Down with terrorism," "We are against terrorism"...

    But then, if it's so, why can the great moderate Muslim world not really fight their own enemy? They themselves give me the answers: "Bin Laden? The Muslim Brotherhood? Certainly the terrorist attacks are not their work, no! This is a lie. A Muslim could never do this. And if they say they do it in the name of Islam, they are not Islamic; or, most likely, this shows, like the television says, that someone uses the name of Islam just to hide the real perpetrators."

    Anyhow, Islam is out of the question, And then, we ask again, who is behind the attacks? Well, you know the answer, they smile with a smart expression. Mahmoud, who comes from a periphery of Cairo, where he now cannot go back because he doesn't have the money for a bus ticket, knows the answer, and so do all his other friends, about 10, all from the same town, now all together as one, standing in the corridor of the Hospital of Sharm, no air-conditioning, their friend Khaled in bed with a wound in his back ("I was lucky. Nadem had both of his legs amputated," Khaled says).

    They know the answer, yes: the television said that only the Israelis and the Americans have a real interest in seeing Egypt on its knees; General Fuad Allam said that the perpetrators of the Taba attack of October 2004 were apparently linked to the Israeli security forces, and so, supposedly, it is today. Also Al-Jazeera and even Al-Arabia interviewed "experts" to confirm this point of view. A big, beautiful guy with a red T-shirt just puts it down bluntly: "We know only what the television tells us."
So you don't think they're ready for democracy? Racist fuck.
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