A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If he does this on Monday, we win VA, MO and NJ.

That's my read, too. I'm not sure why he and Bush hung on.

In other news, here's George Allen the day after the election in Florida, "we'll need to move America forward as soon as those votes are cast."

I enjoy a recount as much as the next guy, but I think it will be amusing listening to the Rs justify turning Virginia into a legal free-for-all.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the bet was with you? I thought it was with SHP. do you guys worry that you blend together?

(a) Maybe you had two bets?

(b) I no longer worry about what goes on in your head.

S_A_M

[backbencher]

The Democrat don't know the difference from a donkeys' rear end and a hole in the ground. The one thing they all know for sure is raise taxes, spend to much and molly coddle evry jerk water fanatic bunch in the world as if being diplomatic will change a terrorest into a saint!

hevan help us!

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If he does this on Monday, we win VA, MO and NJ.

Maybe not NJ, but I wouldn't have been shocked. Probably would have saved a few House seats, too.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
That's my read, too. I'm not sure why he and Bush hung on.

Because that is who they are -- bitter enders. Don't do anything to admit a mistake until it has already cost you big. Loyalty and resolve are virtues to a point.

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
In other news, here's George Allen the day after the election in Florida, "we'll need to move America forward as soon as those votes are cast."

I enjoy a recount as much as the next guy, but I think it will be amusing listening to the Rs justify turning Virginia into a legal free-for-all.

Heh. Hell, when you have a state-wide election as close as that, you have to expect a recount. Nothing wrong with it.

Bottom line though, is that the history of VA recounts (from what I hear) tend to show very little movement. That state runs a pretty tight ship.

S_A_M

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If he does this on Monday, we win VA, MO and NJ.

I'm not so sure. It would constitute an admission of pussification (or worse, even error) by Bush in the Face of Terror.

You win some votes, sure, but K-Lo probably commits hari-kari (Hi, Burger!), and who wants that?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man

Bottom line though, is that the history of VA recounts (from what I hear) tend to show very little movement. That state runs a pretty tight ship.

S_A_M

i can't find any montana numbers. does anyone have a link?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Gattigap
And Robert Gates in. Who's Robert Gates?

Headed the CIA under Reagan and Bush I, if memory serves.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
i can't find any montana numbers. does anyone have a link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ey_senate.html

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If he does this on Monday, we win VA, MO and NJ.

I think Monday would have been too late (perhaps even worse than today) because it would look too much like last minute pandering. But two weeks ago? Definitely.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If he does this on Monday, we win VA, MO and NJ.

Another Rove misread?

Clearly they had this planned before last night, because Gates was ready to step in. So I have to think either Rumsfeld agreed to resign only if the Rs lost the election (or Bush wanted him to resign only if), or Rove figured that they could run on their policy/stay the course, and still win, and to resign then would have made the rout even worse by acknowledging the major issue.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Headed the CIA under Reagan and Bush I, if memory serves.

1. Does Bush push the nomination while the Rs still control the Senate?

2. Do the Ds filibuster?

3. Does Bush use a recess appointment?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
1. Does Bush push the nomination while the Rs still control the Senate?

2. Do the Ds filibuster?

3. Does Bush use a recess appointment?

I'd say any confirmation hearing is an opportunity for a public hearing on the war. I suspect there are a lot of Republicans who would like to speak against the war at this point, especially the ones who pulled out victories by less than 1 or 2%. So I'd guess recess.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I'd say any confirmation hearing is an opportunity for a public hearing on the war. I suspect there are a lot of Republicans who would like to speak against the war at this point, especially the ones who pulled out victories by less than 1 or 2%. So I'd guess recess.

You think Bush would do a recess appointment without even a hearing and an attempt to vote on the nomination? Maybe in 2002, but the brass on Bush's balls has tarnished considerably since then.

Did rummy resign effective upon the confirmation of his successor? Because that would get a vote right quick.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
1. Does Bush push the nomination while the Rs still control the Senate?

2. Do the Ds filibuster?

3. Does Bush use a recess appointment?

I'd guess no, no, and no. But I do suspect that there will be some very interesting confirmation hearings, even if the GOP maintains control of the Senate.

I think that I read that he's on Jim Baker's "wise men" committee. Looks like the Velvet Hammer is back in business.