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01-31-2005, 01:08 PM
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Don't touch there
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Caption, please -
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Originally posted by bilmore
What is the "racist" version of religious hatred? I can't remember the term.
Look, I'm an atheist, but you've really captured the essence of what I speak. "Faith-based" means, well. what you said?
Wow.
Prepare for Naderism. At best. Imagine your party begging Nader to let your candidate into the debates.
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Geez, bilmore, it was a JOKE. The Friday evening post time and the fact that there is no such thing as Canadian light sweet crude should have tipped you off.
"Faith-based" means what the Administration does that derives from its predominant Christian culture. I won't pretend to speak for you or anyone else in interpreting the importance of that culture to Administration policy, or the direction of the R party. We're all smart boys and girls.
Interestingly, while you're the self-proclaimed atheist, I'm pretty well known in my church. Go figure.
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01-31-2005, 01:10 PM
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#2147
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The latter. The apparently distasteful coercion is created by the state's offering of unemployment benefits with conditions. I blame that. But if you legalize prostitution, why isn't it like any other potentially unattractive job--couldn't one make the same argument if one were "forced" to be the sewer de-mucker for example?
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I dunno. It seems a little more icky. Fucking, let alone blowing, an old stinky unshowered man is way grosser than cleaning a sewer in appropriate protective clothing. And I have a friend who cleaned septic tanks in state parks one summer -- and was very very pissed off and descriptive about the whole experience, so short of actually having done anything like that, I'm aware of the ickiness.
Hey! What if a 16-y-o takes the prostitution job for lack of anything better and gets pregnant? Abortion w/o parental notification OK? Note this only just occurred to me; I wasn't going here when I originally posted this morning.
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01-31-2005, 01:13 PM
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#2148
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Hey! What if a 16-y-o takes the prostitution job for lack of anything better and gets pregnant? Abortion w/o parental notification OK? Note this only just occurred to me; I wasn't going here when I originally posted this morning.
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I wonder how many workers comp policies carry a preg exclusion? Would it qualify for the existing "frolic" exclusion if she came?
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01-31-2005, 01:14 PM
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#2149
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Caption, please -
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Geez, bilmore, it was a JOKE.
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It was, like, the eighth post about the supposed horrid New Crusaders that had taken over the R's. I was getting testy. Sorry.
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01-31-2005, 01:15 PM
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by bilmore
Would it qualify for the existing "frolic" exclusion if she came?
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That's charming! Wow, next time you are in town, will you fuck me?
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01-31-2005, 01:17 PM
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#2151
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
That's charming! Wow, next time you are in town, will you fuck me?
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Thank you, no.
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01-31-2005, 01:17 PM
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#2152
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by bilmore
Thank you, no.
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I think I can promise I won't come . . .
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01-31-2005, 01:37 PM
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#2153
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Serenity Now
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I think I can promise I won't come . . .
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I believe its cum
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01-31-2005, 01:38 PM
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#2154
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I believe its cum
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I am not a fan of that spelling, particularly for the verb form. Bilmore does not appear to be either.
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01-31-2005, 01:40 PM
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#2155
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Moderator
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I dunno. It seems a little more icky. Fucking, let alone blowing, an old stinky unshowered man is way grosser than cleaning a sewer in appropriate protective clothing.
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So what you're saying is you should modify the unemployment law.
But, hey, seems to me that the general rule of "if you can do something that society values, you must" as part of a social welfare system is a reasonable one. Besides, how hard is it to fail your entry exam for being a hooker?
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01-31-2005, 01:42 PM
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
So what you're saying is you should modify the unemployment law. And I was more bringing it up as a question for those in favor of welfare reform and legalization of prostitution, not as a reform of Germany's unemployment laws. Though, re: entry exams, I would imagine that the HIV-positive and those with herpes/genital warts/other incurable STDs would perhaps not be required to take the prostitution jobs?
But, hey, seems to me that the general rule of "if you can do something that society values, you must" as part of a social welfare system is a reasonable one. Besides, how hard is it to fail your entry exam for being a hooker?
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Happily it's not an issue for me as prostitution is illegal in my state (is that outable??).
So if the only employment you could find was blowing dirty (in the sweaty, urine and come/come-encrusted sense, not in the mental sense) old men, you'd do it?
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01-31-2005, 01:43 PM
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
So what you're saying is you should modify the unemployment law.
But, hey, seems to me that the general rule of "if you can do something that society values, you must" as part of a social welfare system is a reasonable one. Besides, how hard is it to fail your entry exam for being a hooker?
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I think the libertarian purity is preserved, because you can always not accept the unemployment comp.
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01-31-2005, 01:45 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
So if the only employment you could find was blowing dirty (in the sweaty, urine and come/come-encrusted sense, not in the mental sense) old men, you'd do it?
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Have you told the Doctor about this fantasy?
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01-31-2005, 01:46 PM
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by bilmore
I think the libertarian purity is preserved, because you can always not accept the unemployment comp.
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Well, duh, if you are required to take any available job, and you don't take the blowing crusty old men job, it's not a question of "accepting" the unemployment comp -- you won't get it anyway. So I guess you can feel better in your poverty/life of crime because you are "pure."
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01-31-2005, 01:47 PM
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Question for the libertarians
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Well, duh, if you are required to take any available job, and you don't take the blowing crusty old men job, it's not a question of "accepting" the unemployment comp -- you won't get it anyway. So I guess you can feel better in your poverty/life of crime because you are "pure."
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Why do you equate "poverty" with "life of crme"? I grew up in comparative poverty, as did many of my friends. I never mugged or shot or raped anyone.
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