The New And Improved Fashion Board

[dtb]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Driver's day off?

I told you, I'm NOT hiring you.


Not as a driver, anyway.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
To be fair, my father's e-mails are pretty hard to decipher. The man has three degrees (some from schools that would make ppnyc swoon, and others, well, Gig'em Aggies!), has written several scientific articles for publication and reads a lot. He just hates to write, and he's not very good at it. If he can dictate, he's ok, so most people are not subjected to his creative spelling, grammar and punctuation rules. But those of us in his inner circle are rather impressed that his e-mails are about as hard to read as his handwriting.

Translation: My daddy's a doctor.

TM

[dtb]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
What???!! Were you slumming or something? Getting a taste of the common man?

Once you've had a taste of the common man...


Oh, wait.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Have you ever enjoyed an Arrogant Bastard?

I have not. I'll give it a shot. (And the St. Peter's Ale I tried wasn't organic, if I recall correctly.)

TM

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Have you ever enjoyed an Arrogant Bastard?

No, but I like Horny Devil, which I think is made by the same people. Horny Devil is also on tap at the extremely ridiculously convenient to me neighborhood bar that ncs mentioned, and I do like it.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by dtb
Once you've had a taste of the common man...


Oh, wait.

Noblesse oblige?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Getting a taste of the common man?

The worst one, too.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
fat out of shapness in cheap acrylic clothes with a fanny pack and white sneakers annoys me also.

for what its worth, wonk is there on business.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by dtb
Once you've had a taste of the common man...


Oh, wait.

Can a common man be an arrogant bastard? Or is that too uncommon?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I don't always capitalize correctly in emails/postings. I know what the rule is, and she probably knows what the rule is, but both of us don't care about publicly displaying that we don't care about making sure we adhere to that rule. I bet she is unclear on a bunch of rules. Not those two in particular, but other ones about titles and stuff.

I think I am irritable again today. Dammit.

wasn't it a handwritten letter? people tend to scribble sometimes and spelling goes out the window.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by nononono
Which means what, though? Ignorance is an excuse for ignorance?

I dunno what it means. I do know that there are a shitload of younger people out there that don't really care about the grammar or punctuation or spelling because they're perfectly capable of getting their points across without any of those things being proper.

I read a lot of blogs, I read a lot of people of varying ages. I read one kid who just started law school, and last year she went on a tirade about grammar rules being antiquated and how she doesn't really care about grammar. I don't think she's atypical, and I don't think she's particularly stupid or ignorant. I don't find her that difficult to understand either, probably because I'm used to her writing style.

I think that she probably writes a lot more than I did at her age (though I probably wrote a lot more formally), and she's a lot lazier in her writing as a result. With the exception of a few journals and diaries and maybe a short story or two, almost all of the writing I did growing up was critiqued by teachers or parents, and grammar and spelling errors were immediately pointed out to me. That's not the same for kids growing up with the internet (and inevitably, this is the point where someone's going to pipe up and say that they were on usenet in 1988 and they never resorted to chatspeak), who spend as much time on IM and e-mailing each other as I did watching TV or talking on the phone. They're writing all the time where the rules of writing don't matter.

We're all lawyers, where words and syntax and comma placement are actually important. And this board is particularly infested with grammar timmies who care even more than average lawyers. We are particularly sensitive to bad writing. But for a lot of people, so long as you get your point across, who cares?

Lohan hasn't ever struck me as particularlly bright, and she's certainly not benefited from any sort of education to speak of. The note she wrote clearly was poorly drafted, and I'm sure she's getting a lot of (justified) shit for it. But, at the same time, I think that it's thoroughly unsurprising, and grammar timmies are going to have to start keeping smelling salts around to revive them from their much more frequent swoons as inattention to detail becomes more the norm.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
That stuff's pretty good, as is Arrogant Bastard. But right now, the best beer in the world is available.

WHAT?!?! You're close enough to Deschutes Brewery to spit on it and you're drinking imported* California swill?

* in Tahoe at least.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
That's not the same for kids growing up with the internet (and inevitably, this is the point where someone's going to pipe up and say that they were on usenet in 1988 and they never resorted to chatspeak), who spend as much time on IM and e-mailing each other as I did watching TV or talking on the phone. They're writing all the time where the rules of writing don't matter.

I can't even imagine being a 15-yr old boy with the internet. They have access to about a trillion times more jackoff material then we did.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I dunno what it means. I do know that there are a shitload of younger people out there that don't really care about the grammar or punctuation or spelling because they're perfectly capable of getting their points across without any of those things being proper.

I read a lot of blogs, I read a lot of people of varying ages. I read one kid who just started law school, and last year she went on a tirade about grammar rules being antiquated and how she doesn't really care about grammar. I don't think she's atypical, and I don't think she's particularly stupid or ignorant. I don't find her that difficult to understand either, probably because I'm used to her writing style.

I think that she probably writes a lot more than I did at her age (though I probably wrote a lot more formally), and she's a lot lazier in her writing as a result. With the exception of a few journals and diaries and maybe a short story or two, almost all of the writing I did growing up was critiqued by teachers or parents, and grammar and spelling errors were immediately pointed out to me. That's not the same for kids growing up with the internet (and inevitably, this is the point where someone's going to pipe up and say that they were on usenet in 1988 and they never resorted to chatspeak), who spend as much time on IM and e-mailing each other as I did watching TV or talking on the phone. They're writing all the time where the rules of writing don't matter.

We're all lawyers, where words and syntax and comma placement are actually important. And this board is particularly infested with grammar timmies who care even more than average lawyers. We are particularly sensitive to bad writing. But for a lot of people, so long as you get your point across, who cares?

Lohan hasn't ever struck me as particularlly bright, and she's certainly not benefited from any sort of education to speak of. The note she wrote clearly was poorly drafted, and I'm sure she's getting a lot of (justified) shit for it. But, at the same time, I think that it's thoroughly unsurprising, and grammar timmies are going to have to start keeping smelling salts around to revive them from their much more frequent swoons as inattention to detail becomes more the norm.

Couldn't you have attacked spanky somewhere at the beginning of this post so he could break down each and every part of it?

TM

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
WHAT?!?! You're close enough to Deschutes Brewery to spit on it and you're drinking imported* California swill?

* in Tahoe at least.

Overall, Deschutes is my favorite brewery. But if I had to pick one beer to drink for the rest of my life, it would be Sierra's Celebration Ale. There's a wine shop here that saves kegs of it from year to year and holds vertical tastings. Good stuff.