The New And Improved Fashion Board

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
vertical tastings

It will not surprise most of you to learn that I don't know the difference between a vertical tasting and a horizontal tasting -- although that could be what dtb was doing with the common man yesterday.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
(and inevitably, this is the point where someone's going to pipe up and say that they were on usenet in 1988 and they never resorted to chatspeak)

An avocada is not a vegetable.

[nononono]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I dunno what it means. I do know that there are a shitload of younger people out there that don't really care about the grammar or punctuation or spelling because they're perfectly capable of getting their points across without any of those things being proper.

I read a lot of blogs, I read a lot of people of varying ages. I read one kid who just started law school, and last year she went on a tirade about grammar rules being antiquated and how she doesn't really care about grammar. I don't think she's atypical, and I don't think she's particularly stupid or ignorant. I don't find her that difficult to understand either, probably because I'm used to her writing style.

I think that she probably writes a lot more than I did at her age (though I probably wrote a lot more formally), and she's a lot lazier in her writing as a result. With the exception of a few journals and diaries and maybe a short story or two, almost all of the writing I did growing up was critiqued by teachers or parents, and grammar and spelling errors were immediately pointed out to me. That's not the same for kids growing up with the internet (and inevitably, this is the point where someone's going to pipe up and say that they were on usenet in 1988 and they never resorted to chatspeak), who spend as much time on IM and e-mailing each other as I did watching TV or talking on the phone. They're writing all the time where the rules of writing don't matter.

We're all lawyers, where words and syntax and comma placement are actually important. And this board is particularly infested with grammar timmies who care even more than average lawyers. We are particularly sensitive to bad writing. But for a lot of people, so long as you get your point across, who cares?

Lohan hasn't ever struck me as particularlly bright, and she's certainly not benefited from any sort of education to speak of. The note she wrote clearly was poorly drafted, and I'm sure she's getting a lot of (justified) shit for it. But, at the same time, I think that it's thoroughly unsurprising, and grammar timmies are going to have to start keeping smelling salts around to revive them from their much more frequent swoons as inattention to detail becomes more the norm.

I don't know. I interact from time to time with high school students and college students (at average schools, in the case of the colleges), as well as recent grads, and they all seem to comprehend basic grammar. And when they leave me a note, it's comprehensible, uses punctuation properly and doesn't have misspelled words everywhere. I just don't buy that most kids, even if they use a casual style blogging or otherwise, don't also learn to write and speak better than that Lohan note.

In any event, I don't find people who write like that (or the low-end blog-style) to be clear communicators at all.

And that law student: if she's not stupid or ignorant, then she's just lazy and/or spoiled. Hey, just like Lohan!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by dtb
I told you, I'm NOT hiring you.

join the crowd.

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I can't even imagine being a 15-yr old boy with the internet. They have access to about a trillion times more jackoff material then we did.

As in the case of my 16-year-old nephew last summer, sometimes you download too much spam and the like and when the computer dies, your parents refuse to fix it or replace it until school starts back up. Then your parents discuss it with you in front of your aunt!

Then, when you go away to school, your mom finds the pot stash you left in your nightstand. She gives it to your dad and he smokes it with your uncle. They complain that it was lousy weed.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I don't think she has a clue that she's displaying ignorance. She's from a generation that thinks that chatspeak is a perfectly acceptable form of communication.

As a test, I had a friend IM me the following sentence:

"He left us with a legend that all of us have the ability to do."

Then I had another friend send it to me as a text message. A third friend posted it as a MySpace Bulletin.

I still have no idea what the fuck it means, and I defy you to find a Gen-Yer or a Millenial or whatever the fuck generation we are up to now who can explain it to me.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
That stuff's pretty good, as is Arrogant Bastard. But right now, the best beer in the world is available.

The best? Those are strong words, my friend. Try the Sam Smith winter before you start bandying about such bold proclamations.

[dtb]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

But for a lot of people, so long as you get your point across, who cares?

I suppose - but getting your point across is a lot more difficult if only your blog readership has any clue what you're talking trying to say. It's more likely that you will get your point across if your readers are not distracted by punctuation and spelling errors so that they end up trying to decipher what it was you were trying to say.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
As a test, I had a friend IM me the following sentence:

"He left us with a legend that all of us have the ability to do."

Then I had another friend send it to me as a text message. A third friend posted it as a MySpace Bulletin.

I still have no idea what the fuck it means, and I defy you to find a Gen-Yer or a Millenial or whatever the fuck generation we are up to now who can explain it to me.

Fuck if I know. But I sent out an apb. I'll see what I get back.

[dtb]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
It will not surprise most of you to learn that I don't know the difference between a vertical tasting and a horizontal tasting.

There is no difference in taste.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by dtb
I suppose - but getting your point across is a lot more difficult if only your blog readership has any clue what you're talking trying to say. It's more likely that you will get your point across if your readers are not distracted by punctuation and spelling errors so that they end up trying to decipher what it was you were trying to say.

I Would Die 4 U. Damn you, man-whose-name-was-a-squiggly-symbol-for-some-period-of-time! This is all your fault!

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
2. The tourists are so slow and they stop short. or walk three across or let their kids run wild. The slow makes me grrrrrrr.

The permed frosted hair, and fat out of shapness in cheap acrylic clothes with a fanny pack and white sneakers annoys me also.

My woman at Saks @ Laura Mercier said she wanted to elbow them. while standing at the counter.

I have suggested this to you before in a manner that was apparently too subtle, so I will be more direct. There are as many if not more overweight and poorly-dressed native New Yorkers as there are sleek, stylish and hip native New Yorkers. Many people who come to visit New York, even those who visit as tourists, are in better shape and dress better than many of those who work and live right in Manhattan itself! The idea that every slow-walking, out-of-shape, non-Prada clad person that New Yorkers encounter is a tourist is a collective New Yorker myth. And don't get me started about the fact that only a tiny fraction of the New Yorkers who incessantly complain about those not from New York are actually native New Yorkers. Don't. Get. Me. Started.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
It will not surprise most of you to learn that I don't know the difference between a vertical tasting and a horizontal tasting -- although that could be what dtb was doing with the common man yesterday.

Are you more likely to have an orgasm when you're tasting vertically or horizontally?


hepful part: vertical = same beverage over multiple vintages

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
The best? Those are strong words, my friend. Try the Sam Smith winter before you start bandying about such bold proclamations.

I have done so, and I stand by my statement.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
I have done so, and I stand by my statement.

Ooooooo!!! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!!!



Did this happen on y'all's school's playgrounds? I never encountered it until we moved to Arkansas. But before that, I was always at hippy-dippy schools, and I don't think there were fisticuffs often, if ever.

Oh wait, I bit some kid in pre-school. Montessori, of course. I don't remember what the consequences were, but I never, ever, ever did it again.