Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Fugee]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
What I doubt is that they, in general, look any more sluttish to your eyes than many of your friends' clothing did to their own parents when you were their age. Except now you are the generation out of date and out of touch with what actually qualifies as looking slutty for a 14 year old. I don't believe that the generational-clothing-gap is any greater now than it ever was - this is not a new development, just the current version of the same old thing. And, compared to some past generational-clothing shifts, this seems pretty mild.

I think there are two differences. The first is the age of the girls. I don't remember my parents being shocked by what the pre-teens and young teens were wearing -- pretty much high school and up. And when I was 11-14, my parents weren't shocked at what I was wearing because they decided what I could wear and that was that. If for no other reason than stricter parenting, the past generational clothing shifts weren't so quickly copied by young girls. It was young women being scandalous, not girls.

The second is the overt slutty sexuality -- not only are really young girls dressing as provocatively in style as older girls and women, but in case you missed the message, their strappy little tops have glitter sayings that make it perfectly clear.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Oh god are you a wimp. Whine whine whine. Hoooney I can't find time to fuck, I have to cook dinner, clean the house and take care of the babies.

Well aren't you selfish?

I finally figured out how to use it to my advantage though. After years of being a spectator my husband finally got off his ass and helped out a bit this weekend after I told him that doing so would not only give me the time to have sex but would also make him more fuckable because it would show that he cares. The trees I had been meaning to take down are now gone and I didn't have to do it by myself.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I finally figured out how to use it to my advantage though. After years of being a spectator my husband finally got off his ass and helped out a bit this weekend after I told him that doing so would not only give me the time to have sex but would also make him more fuckable because it would show that he cares. The trees I had been meaning to take down are now gone and I didn't have to do it by myself.

Oh crap, does this mean I now have to do more housework or cook? I was hoping it was enough to just order and pick up the Chinese food for dinner.

[Fugee]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
After years of being a spectator my husband finally got off his ass and helped out a bit this weekend after I told him that doing so would not only give me the time to have sex but would also make him more fuckable because it would show that he cares. The trees I had been meaning to take down are now gone and I didn't have to do it by myself.

Years? Years? This is a no brainer. What took you so fricken long to figure it out?

Note to self: Suggest to BIL that if he takes the paternity leave I've been nagging him to take to help out my sister with the new baby and toddler, she'll be rested up enough to have sex a lot sooner. Watch him put in his request immediately.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
The trees I had been meaning to take down are now gone and I didn't have to do it by myself.

Um, honey, what *does* your husband contribute to the relationship?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Oh crap, does this mean I now have to do more housework or cook? I was hoping it was enough to just order and pick up the Chinese food for dinner.

Anything you do to make your SO's life a little easier and more enjoyable makes you more fuckable than people who are just "along for the ride." You provided a meal, it doesn't matter whether you made it or somebody else did -- that makes you more fuckable.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Anything you do to make your SO's life a little easier and more enjoyable makes you more fuckable than people who are just "along for the ride." You provided a meal, it doesn't matter whether you made it or somebody else did -- that makes you more fuckable.

That is the single best argument I have ever heard for dusting, ever. 'Pledge grab-its,' here I come!

Since the board is boring today anyway, can soimeone tell me what I missed on BB4 on Friday?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This car will get you laid, Wonk.



http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/0....ap/index.html

Thurgreed(something has to)Marshall

Actually, I got laid twice this weekend. And all it took was buying Mrs. Wonk a new house and new appliances. All of which added up to only slightly more than the car.

And I still had a buck so your momma blew me four times.

[Fugee]

GA Moms, if you want hubby to take the baby out for a stroll, you have to get a stroller that appeals to the car nut in him.

I like to think the Chicago lawyer mentioned is one of our very own fashionista GAs.

Exceprts from a long NY Times Article:

Babies Are Riding High
By DAVID HOCHMAN

THE supermoms in the organic bread aisle couldn't stop staring. And who could blame them? My new baby was surely the finest-looking creation the store had ever seen, what with the adorable curves, the crimson bonnet and the ergonomically correct brushed-aluminum chassis.

So what if my wife wasn't scheduled to deliver our firstborn for another three weeks? As soon as our tricked-out red Bugaboo stroller arrived from Babystyle.com, I had to take the little addition for a spin.

Designer diaper bags do nothing for me. Sippy cups are for kids. But the $700 Dutch-engineered Bugaboo Frog had me rolling down the path of conspicuous conception. Maybe it was the 12-inch all-terrain tires or the squishy grip bar or the fact that the Bugaboo steered more like a Porsche than a pram, but there I was, wheeling an empty stroller through a grocery store for the adrenaline rush.

I wasn't alone. From Central Park West to Santa Monica's trendy Montana Avenue, the Bugaboo is the chariot of choice. Miranda has a Bugaboo on "Sex and the City." Julianne Moore showed hers off to Barbara Walters. And Noah Wyle rarely leaves home without his. "The Bugaboo's design surpasses anything that's out there," said Mr. Wyle, the star of "E.R." who has a 9-month-old named Owen. "I mean, have you seen the shocks on this thing?"

Though baby strollers have been around for more than 250 years, a new generation of exotic, expensive imports is redefining the way well-heeled parents push their kids around.

With once-prestigious brands like Peg Pérego and Aprica glutting baby stores, the strollers with cachet now come from little-known design firms in places like New Zealand and Sweden, and at prices upward of $2,000. And these aren't just chick vehicles anymore. Marketers are wooing new fathers like me (not to mention David Beckham, Matthew Broderick and David Duchovny) by packaging these ultra-prams — leather seats, pneumatic braking systems and all — as if they were little Lexuses.

"Suddenly, it's all about who's got the Techno, who's got the big wheels, who's got the limited edition," said Bryan Pulice, owner of Traveling Tikes, a Los Angeles children's store that sells four Bugaboos a day. He said he sold one to Mr. Duchovny and his wife, Téa Leoni.

The flaunt factor is definitely part of the appeal. Jim Folker, a patent lawyer from Chicago, gets stopped two or three times whenever he takes out his Bugaboo, er, his 8-month-old son, Nathaniel, for a stroll in the West Loop warehouse district. He likes that he can push the stroller with one hand, "which makes it feel less girly."
....

Maclaren is about to expand its fleet of Kate Spade prams, unveil a new line by Philippe Starck and introduce an exclusive collection of Burberry buggies. Next year, Mountain Buggy will introduce a 12-pound collapsible stroller that could carry an 85-pound child. And the French company Bébé Confort is marketing a deluxe stroller to fathers under the tagline "the paternal instinct." It even has a Web site that resembles a sports car ad at www.la-kart.com.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by taxwonk
And I still had a buck so your momma blew me four times.

Sucker.

TM

All she needs are a couple of volleyballs and some fake eyelashes and bad lipliner.

[tmdiva]

Originally posted by Fugee
GA Moms, if you want hubby to take the baby out for a stroll, you have to get a stroller that appeals to the car nut in him.

Also check out http://www.zooperstrollers.com They're a bit less than the Bugaboos mentioned, but still very cool--the SFC isn't particularly hardware-oriented, but he really got into the slick design on these.

tm

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Fugee
I think there are two differences. The first is the age of the girls. I don't remember my parents being shocked by what the pre-teens and young teens were wearing -- pretty much high school and up. And when I was 11-14, my parents weren't shocked at what I was wearing because they decided what I could wear and that was that. If for no other reason than stricter parenting, the past generational clothing shifts weren't so quickly copied by young girls. It was young women being scandalous, not girls.

The second is the overt slutty sexuality -- not only are really young girls dressing as provocatively in style as older girls and women, but in case you missed the message, their strappy little tops have glitter sayings that make it perfectly clear.

1) you remember your pre-teen years rather differently than I remember mine. I got called out for wanting to dress "slutty" when I was 10 (I believe it was ear-piercing at issue, which my mother still maintains is practiced only by slutty women.) Heel height may have come up before even that. Makeup certainly did.

2) This also is not new, it is entirely normal. I see your grandmother never told you about the early '20s. One of my great aunts was locked in the attic for quite a long time when she got her hair bobbed at 13 (my grandmother held out cutting her hair until she got married, like a nice girl), with my great-grandfather reportedly having fits the whole time that one of his daughters had become a prostitute. Bobbed hair, bare arms, no corsets, short skirts, sheer stockings, bare legs - if that isn't overt slutty sexuality obviously advertised, I don't know what is. Nevermind the examples in living memory of 1970s bralessness, and late '50s early'60s minis, etc, etc, etc. All far more shocking and overt in their context than spaghetti strap tops with Playboy branding on the front are in ours.

BR(Did you know there was a brief fashion among the young in Napoleonic France to wear a dress of the sheerest possible lawn, with no undergarments at all, and to have a servant trailing you at all times to keep you wet down so it clung see-through to your body? It wasn't the horror of the elders that stopped that, it was enough women dying of pneumonia. Just a curious bit of trivia for you.)C

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
All she needs are a couple of volleyballs and some fake eyelashes and bad lipliner.

Well she certainly can't play tennis. So she might as well become a pro bimbo.