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Old 12-19-2006, 05:50 PM   #2176
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No, but in some regards, neither did I. Having a mortgage makes you think awfully hard before you quit a job on the spot. Sure, I could have looked for another job (in all my spare time) and quit once I found one, but that didn't help me after I was forced to bill 44 straight hours (no exageration).
Geez, I bet this guy was doing just fabuloso on his mortgage and other financial and personal obligations, too, being stuck in prison, unable to communicate with the outside world AT ALL. Clearly, the two of you were in very similar situations.

Do you even fucking hear yourself? What the motherfuckinghell is wrong with you? HE WAS IMPRISONED. AND NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO CONTACT A LAWYER, LET ALONE HIS BANKERS.

edited because I accidentally hit post when my phone rang. Not with the call I wanted.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:54 PM   #2177
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HE WAS IMPRISONED. WRONGFULLY.
The best/worst part is that the business may not have been raided at all but for his tipping off the FBI. Agent of his own distruction. See what he got for trying to fight the terrorists?
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:59 PM   #2179
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Geez, I bet this guy was doing just fabuloso on his mortgage and other financial and personal obligations, too, being stuck in prison, unable to communicate with the outside world AT ALL. Clearly, the two of you were in very similar situations.

Do you even fucking hear yourself? What the motherfuckinghell is wrong with you? HE WAS IMPRISONED. AND NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO CONTACT A LAWYER, LET ALONE HIS BANKERS.

edited because I accidentally hit post when my phone rang. Not with the call I wanted.
I have made it a rule not to respond to you, but I'm going to break it this time, just to say that you are really stupid.

Rule back in effect.

Carry on.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:01 PM   #2180
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does France have single pay? If so, maybe you were a nice extra 50 Euros so the doc came out. I just find it hard to believe that all of the poor people in the rioting suburbs of Paris can get a Doc out like this.
I don't know. Like I said, I hesitate to draw a lot of conclusions from anecdotes -- I was just giving a counter-example to Spanky's anecdote (on which he does seem to base broad conclusions).

Your theory -- that we were a nice extra 50 Euros -- is interesting, but I think it's wrong. In Paris, they definitely didn't know we were tourists when they sent the doctor. My wife speaks fluent French. We were staying in an apartment in a residential area (we did a home exchange). The doctor thought it was our apartment and was surprised to learn that we didn't live there. We probably could've faked our way through and not paid, but maybe they require you to show an ID card or something. In any event -- the dispatcher certainly had no idea, and it's hard to believe that the dispatcher would really make an effort to give some unknown doctor extra cash.

Almost ditto for Avignon. While we were staying in a hotel, it was during an event where Frogs galore pour into Avignon.

As for the poor people in the rioting suburbs, you are probably right -- though, I would note, the neighborhood where we stayed in Paris was hardly an upper-class area. In any event, I'm not sure that it makes sense to compare the (unknown) experience of poor Frogs with the anecdotal experience of US lawyers. Do you think uninsured Americans get the same level of medical care that you get?
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:03 PM   #2181
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No, but in some regards, neither did I. Having a mortgage makes you think awfully hard before you quit a job on the spot. Sure, I could have looked for another job (in all my spare time) and quit once I found one, but that didn't help me after I was forced to bill 44 straight hours (no exageration).

I cannot believe that you would seriously draw parallels between the experience of a law firm associate (making what, $145k/year) and the experience of a prisoner, wrongfully held captive, denied access to a lawyer, deprived of sleep and subject to other abuses for the purpose of extracting information.

What is wrong with you?
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:04 PM   #2182
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Do you even fucking hear yourself? What the motherfuckinghell is wrong with you? HE WAS IMPRISONED. WRONGFULLY.
I think the point that Club is trying to make is that, when you think about it, we are all "imprisoned wrongfully" -- held by chains woven of circumstance and locked with heavy bolts of fateful chance. Having to pay a mortgage, being beaten with sticks, going to work, being beaten with bigger sticks -- all of this is One in the unblinking eye of eternity. And what is this world, where each of us must live and die trapped alone in the cell of our own consciousness -- unable to connect on the most fundamental level with those around us, even those whom we care for the most -- but a prison of the Self?
 
Old 12-19-2006, 06:05 PM   #2183
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I have made it a rule not to respond to you, but I'm going to break it this time, just to say that you are really stupid.

Rule back in effect.

Carry on.
I just want to point out that you two are reenacting an episode from the Office. I never really envisioned fringie as Michael, nor Club as Kevin.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:05 PM   #2184
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Settle down, little man.

etd pitying irritation and replace with amusement that you even remember what the "tiff" was about.

I have a remarkable memory for events that cause people I thought were sane to explode into weeks' (now months')-long fits of cuntiness. It's a gift.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:08 PM   #2185
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I cannot believe that you would seriously draw parallels between the experience of a law firm associate (making what, $145k/year) and the experience of a prisoner, wrongfully held captive, denied access to a lawyer, deprived of sleep and subject to other abuses for the purpose of extracting information.

What is wrong with you?
I'm in no way comparing my experience to his, other than to point out that sleep deprivation is not a clear cut case for torture.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:12 PM   #2186
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I'm in no way comparing my experience to his, other than to point out that sleep deprivation is not a clear cut case for torture.
So when I said "he didn't have a choice," and you responded "but in some regards, neither did I", that was in no way a comparison?

Hunh.

The suggestion that forced sleep deprivation is not torture, because after all sometimes lawyers have to work a lot of late nights, is kind of like saying rape isn't all that bad, because after all everyone likes to have sex.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:12 PM   #2187
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I have a remarkable memory for events that cause people I thought were sane to explode into weeks' (now months')-long fits of cuntiness. It's a gift.
I think the record is quite clear on who exploded in rage (hint: it's you). And who still carries, it, apparently. Does it make you feel like a man to call me a cunt? Because it doesn't enhance your commentary in the slightest.
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Wrong? Cute? WTF?

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Old 12-19-2006, 06:24 PM   #2189
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So when I said "he didn't have a choice," and you responded "but in some regards, neither did I", that was in no way a comparison?

Hunh.

The suggestion that forced sleep deprivation is not torture, because after all sometimes lawyers have to work a lot of late nights, is kind of like saying rape isn't all that bad, because after all everyone likes to have sex.
You're usually not this slow or literal. I'll give you a pass today, but if it continues, I'm going to have to sic Hank on you.
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Wrong? Cute? WTF?

Well, given that the point of the object is to smash it open, and it has images of soldiers on it, it could be taken the wrong way.
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