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[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think it's stupid that he would say this publicly, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the statement in and of itself.

Torre was a losing manager when he got to the Yankees. He was given a great team that was built by Gene Michael and Buck Showalter. He did great things with that team, but once they were gone, he hasn't done much with the highest payroll in baseball. Pitching is definitely to blame for us not going deeper, but what other manager couldn't bring the Yankees to the playoffs every year?

There are things Torre does well, like dealing with the press and taking pressure off his guys. Everything else he does is completely formulaic since '98. And he can't really manage certain types of players (see Lofton, Mondesi and Sheff).

I'm not too broken up over him leaving. I'm not sure if Girardi is ready, but why not give him a chance? I'd take him over Mattingly and LaRussa is out of it (Thank God) and hopefully so is Valentine.

TM

I kinda like Donnie Baseball.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Torre was a losing manager when he got to the Yankees. He was given a great team that was built by Gene Michael and Buck Showalter.

That reminds me: Notre Dame's punter was the player of the game this week. A $1000 scholarship was given to the school in his name.

[nelson]Ha-ha[/nelson]

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think it's stupid that he would say this publicly, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the statement in and of itself.

Torre was a losing manager when he got to the Yankees. He was given a great team that was built by Gene Michael and Buck Showalter. He did great things with that team, but once they were gone, he hasn't done much with the highest payroll in baseball. Pitching is definitely to blame for us not going deeper, but what other manager couldn't bring the Yankees to the playoffs every year?

There are things Torre does well, like dealing with the press and taking pressure off his guys. Everything else he does is completely formulaic since '98. And he can't really manage certain types of players (see Lofton, Mondesi and Sheff).

I'm not too broken up over him leaving. I'm not sure if Girardi is ready, but why not give him a chance? I'd take him over Mattingly and LaRussa is out of it (Thank God) and hopefully so is Valentine.

It's a fair point in a conversation about the subject, but a poor thing to say in response to Torre's suggestion that the offer was an "insult," not least because it's non-responsive. I think you are suggesting much the same thing.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Ah, I thought I remembered something.

So now your corner is shirtless hot (and not-so-hot) men. Hmmm.

And pantless. Don't forget pantless.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Pitching is definitely to blame for us not going deeper, but what other manager couldn't bring the Yankees to the playoffs every year?

Well, we're about to find out.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Well, we're about to find out.

I'm still annoyed that I have to watch the sox again and it looks like the Pats again and the Yanks and the NY Teams seem to have bit it again.

wtf? they were never this good when I was there and growing up.

[Hank Chinaski]

Two new restaurants opened within a block of my office in the last few months. One is a very nice steakhouse, the other is an upscale asian thing.

I just found out they're both chains, nice chains, but chains.

It's one thing that the concept of a unique store is about dead, but do my meals also have to become predictable corporate selections? I don' t remember the last time something new was independant. Are independant restaurants dying out?

if this is all the future holds, I don't know if I can gone on.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Two new restaurants opened within a block of my office in the last few months. One is a very nice steakhouse, the other is an upscale asian thing.

I just found out they're both chains, nice chains, but chains.

It's one thing that the concept of a unique store is about dead, but do my meals also have to become predictable corporate selections? I don' t remember the last time something new was independant. Are independant restaurants dying out?

if this is all the future holds, I don't know if I can gone on.

This is all the future holds. We will miss you.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Two new restaurants opened within a block of my office in the last few months. One is a very nice steakhouse, the other is an upscale asian thing.

I just found out they're both chains, nice chains, but chains.

It's one thing that the concept of a unique store is about dead, but do my meals also have to become predictable corporate selections? I don' t remember the last time something new was independant. Are independant restaurants dying out?

if this is all the future holds, I don't know if I can gone on.

In all fariness, some chains are good.

Legal Seafoods is one of them. Mc Cormick and Schmick's is another.

But as far as originality and refreshing change.................. I think in the city a lot of the steak houses are chains. even luger's has more than one location.....

The individual ones focus on the cult of celeb chef. Trotter, Flay, etc.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
This is all the future holds. We will miss you.

I'll be over at 10 tonight, wake you at about 3, breed you, and wait for release, both my physical release, and my release from this earthly coil as I feel your venom injected into my veins. Or am I right that you bite the head off? Ah, sweet release!

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
if this is all the future holds, I don't know if I can gone on.

I hope that your heart will go on, at the very least.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'll be over at 10 tonight, wake you at about 3, breed you, and wait for release, both my physical release, and my release from this earthly coil as I feel your venom injected into my veins. Or am I right that you bite the head off? Ah, sweet release!

EEEEEEWWWWWWWWW.

OK, I retract the missing you thing. That is really just skin-crawlingly icky.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
This is all the future holds. We will miss you.

Or not.

And since she doesn't have those pesky kids running around getting under foot, might as well have your lips injected.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by BurgerThat reminds me: Notre Dame's punter was the player of the game this week. A $1000 scholarship was given to the school in his name.

[nelson]Ha-ha[/nelson]

I don't get it. I mean, I get it, but don't know how it relates to anything.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's a fair point in a conversation about the subject, but a poor thing to say in response to Torre's suggestion that the offer was an "insult," not least because it's non-responsive. I think you are suggesting much the same thing.

What exactly was insulting about it? The fact that if he couldn't get us to the Series, he wouldn't have an automatic extension? Surely it wasn't the money. Or is he implying that making less for the next contract (even though it would be more than any other manager in the League) was beneath him. Or maybe it was the incentives for the amount he could earn above $5,000,000?

I think they made the offer knowing he'd turn it down. I've said this already. But it's not exactly an insult. I think Hank was trying to say, "The fact that we overpaid him in the past does not make this contract an insult, especially since he has underachieved with the teams he had that weren't the product of other management."

TM

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

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