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09-09-2003, 04:05 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
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old glory
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Why does he find the American flag offensive?
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He's not my father, so I won't answer the particular question. However, as a resident of a part of the country not traditionally associated with unbridled patriotism, I can say that there is often some suspicion (NB: not offense) around one's motives in displaying an American flag anywhere other than a flagpole. In other words, in a world in which the flag is used by some to symbolize one set of American values that contradict another set of equally American values, I think it's legitimate to ask whether the flag is being used in the "big tent" sense or otherwise.
Symbols are like that --- while the one evoking the symbol insists it has only one meaning, it ain't necessarily so. I might carry a crucifix (good symbol) into Auchwitz to symbolize redemption, sorrow and suffering, but I have no control over how it might be taken. Ty's dad, among many others including myself, might be perfectly comfortable flying a flag on 7/4 or 9/11 or on flag day, but would wonder whether a smaller point was being made.
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09-09-2003, 04:25 PM
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#22142
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A & F
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09-09-2003, 05:08 PM
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#22143
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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old glory
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I'm not sure where your father is coming from. Why does he find the American flag offensive? Is part of the lefty-east faction Canadian, and therefore feel offended and left out?
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My father actually flies an American flag from his house, so his objection to the flag on the website is highly contextual. There are no furners in our family that I can think of (if there were, that would have been a good pretext to use to defuse this). He seems to feel that the specific use here is a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, although I'm not exactly clear why. I have to say that I agree with tmdiva that it seems a little odd to me to design the site this way, but I also have a hard time believing that said cousin is being truculent. He seems amiable enough to me.
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09-09-2003, 05:20 PM
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#22144
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
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The other, non-lethal way natural selection is enforced.
Man injures himself with firecracker, rendering himself impotent. Thrasher Disclosure: involves man sticking firecracker up (his own) butt.
There should be a subcategory of the Darwin Awards for people who survive but are rendered unable to breed.
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09-09-2003, 05:24 PM
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#22145
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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old glory
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
My father actually flies an American flag from his house, so his objection to the flag on the website is highly contextual. There are no furners in our family that I can think of (if there were, that would have been a good pretext to use to defuse this). He seems to feel that the specific use here is a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, although I'm not exactly clear why. I have to say that I agree with tmdiva that it seems a little odd to me to design the site this way, but I also have a hard time believing that said cousin is being truculent. He seems amiable enough to me.
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Maybe you don't see this in your area, but in vast swaths of the red (or is it green or blue - I never remember which is which) states, you see flags on every other house, you see them on lots of cars, you see them over businesses, you see them in e-mail sigs, and, yes, you see them on websites. I wouldn't overestimate the importance placed on the decision to put it on the web page - it's becoming rote, and sometimes people are just looking for stuff to fill space and add color to the page. Be thankful it isn't flowers or kittens.
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09-09-2003, 05:31 PM
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#22146
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
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old glory
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Originally posted by bilmore
you see flags on every other house, you see them on lots of cars, you see them over businesses...
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Are these actual waving flags, or are they stickers or posters or decals?
B/c I was driving through Indiana and saw a garage door painted as the flag. That is NEVER appropriate. And I hate decals and bumper stickers on cars*, so these flags have to go too.
*exception: no matter how many times I see it, I still laugh - the "My son kicked the shit out of your honor student" bumper sticker. Good times.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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09-09-2003, 05:33 PM
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Quality not quantity
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Stumptown, USA
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old glory
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
Maybe you don't see this in your area, but in vast swaths of the red (or is it green or blue - I never remember which is which) states, you see flags on every other house, you see them on lots of cars, you see them over businesses, you see them in e-mail sigs, and, yes, you see them on websites. I wouldn't overestimate the importance placed on the decision to put it on the web page - it's becoming rote, and sometimes people are just looking for stuff to fill space and add color to the page. Be thankful it isn't flowers or kittens.
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Bilmore's probably right--it was probably one of the set design options for the cheapie websites, and it probably just appealed to him a little more than the other options. Maybe he just needs some html tutoring? Or you could send him a ready-made family graphic that really has something to do with your family.
tm
PS Timmy props on the use of "furners."
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09-09-2003, 05:34 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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old glory
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Are these actual waving flags, or are they stickers or posters or decals?
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Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore.
(Shit. Now I'm going to be humming John Prine all afternoon.)
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09-09-2003, 05:34 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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The other, non-lethal way natural selection is enforced.
And yet are still bangable.
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09-09-2003, 05:38 PM
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She Said, Let's Go!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: hollerin' for Heras
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The other, non-lethal way natural selection is enforced.
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
And yet, are still bangable.
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Not without industrial-strength birth control, they aren't.
Though how anyone could bear to have sex with anyone that stupid even without the fear of breeding 'em into future generations is beyond me.
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09-09-2003, 05:45 PM
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#22151
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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The other, non-lethal way natural selection is enforced.
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Originally posted by purse junkie
Not without industrial-strength birth control, they aren't.
Though how anyone could bear to have sex with anyone that stupid even without the fear of breeding 'em into future generations is beyond me.
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Pssst.
Pun.
"Bang"able.
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09-09-2003, 05:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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Interesting comment on benefits article
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So while the article is not interesting, the use of apostrophes in the article fascinates you and your apostrophilia makes you more interesting than someone who would focus on the substance of the article?
Thrasher, can I come over for beer and sports?
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I am more interesting than other people just because. Misuse of apostrophes is rampant around here, it drive's me banana's and I was amused to see (a) that Business Week used "it's" for "its" and that someone mocke'd them. That may not have been clear from the context.
However, if you want beer and sports you should go to Thrasher's house.
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09-09-2003, 05:54 PM
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#22153
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
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The other, non-lethal way natural selection is enforced.
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Originally posted by purse junkie
Not without industrial-strength birth control, they aren't.
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This just reminded me of the full-body condoms in The Naked Gun.
"Jane, since I've met you I've noticed things that I never knew were there before; birds singing, dew glistening on a newly formed leaf, stoplights."
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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09-09-2003, 05:56 PM
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#22154
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
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Vegans, Leather and FLO$ Spoiler
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
{TF: I am an interesting person}
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Some comments:
1. You sound just a wee bit defensive. Who cares if TM thinks you're interesting? That you apparently care so much is not a good sign.
2. If you are going to provide lots of details to show that you've had a well varied diet, you really owe it to us to provide the same level of detail to show that you've had plent of sexual experimentation. At least the same level.
3. Ignoring naked bodies on principle is just weird. And wrong. And generally bad. And probably un-American, unless you ask John Ashcroft.
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09-09-2003, 05:59 PM
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#22155
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
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Craving poll
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Originally posted by lookingformarket
I always found it interesting that heterosexual pregnant women generally crave dick at some point.
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True indeed. By month 7 I felt like Mrs. Finch's sex toy.
In a good way.
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