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04-14-2003, 10:26 PM
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Bright Young Things, or Life on the FB
Originally posted by robustpuppy
That's more like how a person or two I've run accross who were, by birth, among the five highest compensated executives or 5%+ shareholders of a publicly held company.
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04-14-2003, 10:31 PM
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Aye, Bee, See
Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
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Ralph Fiennes ... the whole Blake poetry obsession was a pathetic attempt to mimic the high-browness of the butterfly collector muderer in Silence of the Lambs.
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No, you ignoranus, the Blake poetry obsession was straight out of the novel Red Dragon and that was written before Silence of the Lambs.
I agree thought that Red Dragon wasn't worth seeing; that's why I never bothered. I wish I'd been smart enough to skip Hannibal.
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04-14-2003, 10:36 PM
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Patch Diva
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Aye, Bee, See
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Originally posted by Sparklehorse
FWIW, I've been talked out of switching to soft lenses in the past because your vision will not be as sharp and soft lenses actually deprive your eyes of oxygen and gradually kills your corneas.
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I don't think this is totally accurate. My eye doctors have never bought into the idea that the older "extended wear" contacts really can be worn 24/7 without causing problems. I did so against advice and was lucky. If a person wears them just during the day and takes them out at night, it should be fine.
But there is a new kind of extended wear contacts out called "Night & Day" and they are supposed to let many times more oxygen in than previous soft lenses. But my opthalmalogist still won't let me sleep in them regularly. Sigh. The web site says they are suitable for up to 1.50 diopters of astigmatism so they may not work for ABBA.
But even regular contact lenses (some of which do work for greater astigmatism) let in oxygen.
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04-14-2003, 10:53 PM
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Aye, Bee, See
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Originally posted by spookyfish
I'd do that too, but that shit makes me piss like a fucking racehorse.
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Yeah, fuckin' tell me about it!
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04-14-2003, 10:57 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Aye, Bee, See
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I don't wear glasses and I didn't know Ralph Fiennes had a hairlip in Red Dragon. His character was badly defined and the whole Blake poetry obsession was a pathetic attempt to mimic the high-browness of the butterfly collector muderer in Silence of the Lambs.
Another sequel that shouldn't have been made, yet MILES better than Hannibal. Hannibal degraded into a comic horror farce like Serial Mom. I scanned the credits afterward to make sure Waters didn't have an exec producer credit. All existing copies of that movie should be burned.
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Actually, Red Dragon was written years before Silence of the Lambs. It was also made into a movie years before Silence of the Lambs, called "Manhunter," with William Peterson playing the Ed Norton role.
But thanks for playing.
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04-14-2003, 11:05 PM
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prodigal poster
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MbA Finale
Some Spoiler Space for y'all on the West Siiiiiiiiiiide:
Okay, how completely depressing.
Throughout this whole thing, I really felt for Billie Jeane. I was glad to see Tony cry about it, though.
I am surprised Jill and Kevin are still engaged. But I guess that is "for now."
After watching it, I can say what a stupid freaking show. Clearly, that was too short a period of time to determine anything. Three months, maybe.
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04-15-2003, 12:23 AM
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MbA Finale
Actually after watching it, I was thinking that it warranted another season. Interesting social experiment. Kind of cool in the end that the people were thinnking about it as a real commitment, not just whether they could win the prizes.
Tonight was a good reality tv night for me, as I also got to flip between that and the marathon RW/RR Battle of the Sexes. I didn't have mtv in my hotel, so I've been deprived.
n(or maybe depraved)cs
On another note, I was dragged to Hannibal on a bad date. Didn't like my date much. Didn't like the movie at all.
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04-15-2003, 08:50 AM
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Aye, Bee, See
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, Red Dragon was written years before Silence of the Lambs. It was also made into a movie years before Silence of the Lambs, called "Manhunter," with William Peterson playing the Ed Norton role.
But thanks for playing.
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Manhunter was scary as hell. To this day, my wife is uncomfortable in houses surrounded by forests/thick trees because of that flick.
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04-15-2003, 08:55 AM
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Aye, Bee, See
Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
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Manhunter was scary as hell. To this day, my wife is uncomfortable in houses surrounded by forests/thick trees because of that flick.
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The movie as a whole isn't scary. The opening inspection of the murder scene is though. When me and some of my family saw it, two of the women up and left for a Disney flick, or something.
The movie manhunter is pretty good. I'd prefer Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal, but other than that, it's pretty good.
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04-15-2003, 09:24 AM
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There Is No Justice in Primetime
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I'll check it out. I used to watch Queer as folk regularly, and even bought the CD they put out after the first season of songs from the show (my friends and I still break out into Lets Get Soaking Wet occasionally), but it got to melodrama preachy for me so I quit watching. Is it getting better again? When I stopped watching (sometime in season 2), we had learned that all straight people are evil homophobes and all drug use will lead to addiction, death and destitution.
I did love the spoof show Gay as Blazes though. Oh and the sex scenes were often quite good.
n(my protagonist was definitely Brian)cs
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I thought it got worse at the very end of season 2 but still reall enjoyed it. I would say its really good again. Its still a little preachy (dont go back into the closet for fame and fortune) but not too bad. ANd Gay as BLazes resurfaced this weekend.
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04-15-2003, 09:36 AM
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MbA Finale
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Actually after watching it, I was thinking that it warranted another season. Interesting social experiment. Kind of cool in the end that the people were thinnking about it as a real commitment, not just whether they could win the prizes.
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I thought it was so sad that Billie Jeane, who despite her loudness and crassness, seems to be a genuinely lovable person, was willing to settle for the possibiltiy that someone might return her feelings down the line. Saddest display of co-ness I hve seen. And that angry mullet man who gave her away was right no themoney that tony is a total POS since he walked down the aisle and then dumped jher. Why would he say he wanted to continue the journey in the vows and then say "I dont"? ANd whats really sad is that she is gonna take him back. Reminds me of that horrific co couple from Temptation Island who I can picture but cant remember theirnames.
The other couple is just a pair of completley uninteresting people (aside from the insane father with the hairy back and the italian dinner suit). ho hum.
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04-15-2003, 09:50 AM
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Aye, Bee, See
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Yeah, fuckin' tell me about it!
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Which reminds me, how are you feeling these days, Wonk?
Hopefully you are on the mend. I am glad to see you posting regularly again.
spookyfish
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04-15-2003, 10:08 AM
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Aye, Bee, See
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, Red Dragon was written years before Silence of the Lambs. It was also made into a movie years before Silence of the Lambs, called "Manhunter," with William Peterson playing the Ed Norton role.
But thanks for playing.
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Jesus Fucking Christ... I've been Timmied about the sequence of b grade novels.
My point is/was this - No matter the sequence of writing, making the killer a butterfly collector was much creepier and effective than making him a Blake poetry fanatic. Blake's bizarre works have been the inspiration for many trite psychadelic records (most notable the Doors) and other sophomoric noodlings by varieties of artists. I read a lot of Blake in college and found most of it incomprehensible absinthe nonsense. It was always the biggest tools in class who fancied themselves Blake afficianados (probably because the Doors movie came out in my sophomore year). It was a favorite of the artsy acid crowd, along with Huxley. I found that Blake tried to hard - it was as though he was really sober and just trying to play the part of a freak. Whoever wrote Red Dragon cheapened the movie by making the character a Blake fanatic. The only thing worse would have been to make him a Poe fanatic.
The butterfly obsession is perfectly creepy because its not trying so hard to be wierd. Butterflies are utterly commonplace and nothing could be less sinister. Blake poetry is dark, bizarre and totally the sort of thing you'd expect a serial killer to be obsessed with - hence, its a cheap and uncreative way to define Ralph Fiennes' character.
I like Manhunter better than Red Dragon. Maybe that's because I like Michael Mann.
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04-15-2003, 10:17 AM
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Aye, Bee, See
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Originally posted by coup_d'skek
Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
No, you ignoranus, the Blake poetry obsession was straight out of the novel Red Dragon and that was written before Silence of the Lambs.
I agree thought that Red Dragon wasn't worth seeing; that's why I never bothered. I wish I'd been smart enough to skip Hannibal.
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Coup,
I wouldn't be caught dead reading any of them. This explains my ignorance, but does not preclude me from comment, of course. I regularly comment about many books I don't read. Just yesterday someone was talking to me about Tom Clancy. I smiled and asked him if he'd seen Shakes the Clown.
S(the Citizen Kane of Alcoholic Clown Movies)D
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04-15-2003, 10:27 AM
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Bright Young Things, or Life on the FB
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Originally posted by coup_d'skek
Originally posted by robustpuppy
That's more like how a person or two I've run accross who were, by birth, among the five highest compensated executives or 5%+ shareholders of a publicly held company.
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That selection of photos is why I use the last twenty pages of the NYTimes magazine to line the bottom of the cats' litter box.
Thank god I'm married. I couldn't imaging having to dress like such a fucking clown to get laid.
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