Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Anne Elk]

From photos of the Frankfurt Autoshow. Available at boston.com

This looks like it would be fun to drive.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Student debt is particularly bad because, as a lawyer, you're paying for education you now are questioning the value of altogether.

May I quote you next time someone asks if they should or shouldn't consider going to law school?

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Dear Mrs. Finch: I know you appreciated me holding your hand, wiping your brow, and giving you water during the ten most painful hours of your life. Sadly, I will not be available to do so again, because I learned today that it would make me uncivilized.

Sidd(judge much?)Finch

Dude, maybe you missed my sign-off. I never said it would make you uncivilized. I said it would make him uncivilized. And me too, for that matter. De gustibus non disputandum est.

Now, if you tell me our life isn't complete without his witnessing the miracle of a 7 pound projectile shooting out of my crotch while I turn red faced and scream like a trapped hyena, that would make you uncivilized. My expressing any interest or opinion whatsoever on what you and your Mrs. feel is meaningful or appropriate interaction in the same situation would make me uncivilized.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I truly hate this attitude. So thanks for that. If I have to hear one more time how incomplete my life is without kids, I will scream. [Note to self, shut the door first.]

I will admit that I haven't experienced 100% of your life since I haven't bred, but I have been busy experiencing 100% of my life. And it hasn't been too bad, really. Despite that gaping hole in it.

I'll make a deal. My post was in response to PJ's statement below:

posted by purse junkie
Yet another reason not to have rugrats. That, and the fact that my friends/family with kids seem to have completely given up their own lives for the dubious reward of passing on their genes and possibly bearing the next Einstein, when they could (1) better put their efforts towards being an Einstein themselves or (2) find that despite their best efforts, they've inadvertently raised the village idiot.

That, and having accidentally caught a bit of a TLC thing on childbirth, which left me convinced that no amount of drugs could make me able to handle the gore.

I won't tell you how great it is to have kids, tempted as I often am, if no one else suggests that its a "dubious reward" (and I'm not offended by PJ's statement, I just feel a need to respond when it's made).

In response to another comment, I have heard all too often the word "miscarriage", luckily not every time.

Now, for those who wish other experiences, either now or forever, enjoy! When and if you get to this one, it's great. No offense was meant to anyone.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I, for once, agree with TF.

I was in a meeting and I missed this. I just wanted to see it again....and remove my name from the subject line.....and piss off TM but then I rethought and deleted the excess postage so now I must add an emoticon for him instead.
:bounce:

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Couldn't the same be said of any unsecured debt? Mortgage debt is not bad because your payments are effectively going towards current consumption, not past consumption. With just about all other debts (car loans being a possible exception), you're paying for something in the past.

Assuming we are not self-employed (with business loans), what other debt besides mortgage and student loans and car loans (also akin to a mortgage in most ways I think) would we be likely to have? I know that people run up credit cards, but anyone who runs up credit card debt that they know they won't be able to pay within a relatively short time obviously is not stressed out about being in debt. Unless they lost their job, etc. etc. and their only source of funds is the credit card, but then they're so stressed out that the unsecured debt really isn't the problem, it's more a symptom of the problem.

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Except for the wording, your instinct is entirely accurate about the correct answer. Dude, seriously, if you and your wife had burst into tears wailing "how, how can people be so callous to brutalize our feelings about the loss of our children in this way?" in a huge, public scene that led to the perpetrator's eternal shame and social ostracism as a monster, you would have been committing a great social good. These people who don't realize that nosiness and personal questions are impolite for a REASON need to be reminded of the damage they do and bitchslapped down so hard that they never, ever do it again.

BR(and add "offering unsolicited advice" to that list)C

(Anon because soooooo many people know this story)

A few months ago I was in the airport travelling with my very young kids, but without my wife. The lady in line behind me at the Starbucks was making faces at the kids and talking to them, the way that some people do where they are really talking to an adult by talking to their kids, you know, "Where's your mommy?", "Why isn't your mommy here with you?", "You shouldn't be on a trip with out your mommy," and (looking up at me with a disapproving smile "I bet you wish your mommy was here."

So I told her that we did all wish that their mommy was here, but unfortunately she had passed away recently.

Ashen face. Silence. She actually got out of line and walked away.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
(Anon because soooooo many people know this story)



So I told her that we did all wish that their mommy was here, but unfortunately she had passed away recently.

Ashen face. Silence. She actually got out of line and walked away.

Whoever you are...I love you.

Bn'B

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by bilmore
And, I can relate to what you're talking about - I love food, and I'm thin as a rail.

Well, a thick rail.

Okay, several very thick rails.

So I'm sitting here trying to picture a raft with Danny Devito's face painted on it......

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
(Anon because soooooo many people know this story)

"I bet you wish your mommy was here."

So I told her that we did all wish that their mommy was here, but unfortunately she had passed away recently.

Ashen face. Silence. She actually got out of line and walked away.

You....are....my....hero...

Who talks to kids like that? WTF? Get away from my kid, pervy. Now, I might pet someone's dog if everyone looks friendly and I ask first, but I wouldn't start talking to a stranger's kids. I mean, the store clerk may say hey to my kid but if the lady in line behind me started conversing with him I would find that odd. "I bet you wish mommy was here"???? She died during childbirth you ignorant bitch and now you just wasted five years of intense therapy with one unsolicited comment. Why don't you go ahead and tell him that Santa doesn't exist too.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Dude, maybe you missed my sign-off. I never said it would make you uncivilized. I said it would make him uncivilized. And me too, for that matter. De gustibus non disputandum est.

Oh, bullshit. You said he woud wait outside "like a civilized person." Your meaning was perfectly clear, backtracking notwithstanding.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Now, if you tell me our life isn't complete without his witnessing the miracle of a 7 pound projectile shooting out of my crotch while I turn red faced and scream like a trapped hyena . . . .

Don't forget the pooing. They never warn you about the potential for pooing.

Then again, maybe they shouldn't. If you don't have a mirror, you might never know, and any birth partner who would share such a thing with you later, or share it with a chat room of lawyers later still, would be an utter cad.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
A few months ago I was in the airport travelling with my very young kids, but without my wife. The lady in line behind me at the Starbucks was making faces at the kids and talking to them, the way that some people do where they are really talking to an adult by talking to their kids, you know, "Where's your mommy?", "Why isn't your mommy here with you?", "You shouldn't be on a trip with out your mommy," and (looking up at me with a disapproving smile "I bet you wish your mommy was here."

So I told her that we did all wish that their mommy was here, but unfortunately she had passed away recently.

Ashen face. Silence. She actually got out of line and walked away.

Harsh, but justified. Even if it was more blithering thoughtlessness than malicious intent (I consider "why aren't you married?" and "why don't you have kids?" to have malicious intent per se as surely as "why haven't you been able to get your book published?" and "why haven't you gone back to work?"), but people should bloody well think.

And I commend you on accomplishing it without any unmannerliness on your own part.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Don't forget the pooing. They never warn you about the potential for pooing.

Yeah. I learned about that recently (like, within the last couple years) and really, I think that is almost more of a disincentive than all the pain. Pooing on yourself and possibly the baby? Yuck.

Why isn't the pooing potential included in descriptions of (or films of) childbirth? There's blood, there's placenta, there's "water" breaking, there's pain. All of which is gross (though a necessary part of the miracle of life, I know). But pooing? Insult to injury. Coup de grace. Blech.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Now, if you tell me our life isn't complete without his witnessing the miracle of a 7 pound projectile shooting out of my crotch while I turn red faced and scream like a trapped hyena,

If the projectile were something other than a baby, like a croquet ball, you could make a lot of money doing this.