Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I was just thinking about this this morning -- that fat looks better tan, but in general, large people cover more of their bodies with clothes.* If the body is all covered up, it can't get tan.** An exacerbating factor is that the paler and more fish-belly-like your fat is, the more you want to cover it up.

Quite the conundrum.

*I do not need to hear about the latest trip to Kmart and how everyone saw a large person in a miniskirt and midriff-baring shirt. Everyone on here bitches that people who are too large to wear such thing shouldn't wear them, so for the sake of argument we are only considering larger people who abide by that rule.

**No, I don't want to hear about self-tanner either. Using self-tanner is a pain in the ass even if you aren't large, and it would seem much harder to get to body parts if they were larger.

Edited to put in slightly more colorful language.

One can only imagine your private hell.

Thank God.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Oh, bullshit. You said he woud wait outside "like a civilized person." Your meaning was perfectly clear, backtracking notwithstanding.

Sidd, if you want to take how I live my life as a commentary on yours, feel free. Ditto if you wish to to so interpret my gentle self-mockery of my anachronistic sensibilities.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I know that people run up credit cards, but anyone who runs up credit card debt that they know they won't be able to pay within a relatively short time obviously is not stressed out about being in debt. Unless they lost their job, etc. etc. and their only source of funds is the credit card, but then they're so stressed out that the unsecured debt really isn't the problem, it's more a symptom of the problem.

It's interesting that the discussion about the article morphed into a group musing about conspicuous consumption. I thought the point of the article is that MWKs find themselves on a debt treadmill largely because of a bidding war for suburban housing and schools that made dual-income households necessary to compete for subsistence.

To me, it seems like the vast household income growth we experienced in the late '70s, '80s and early '90s was wholly attributable to families becoming dual-income. It doesn't take an economist to figure out that those gains would be entirely eaten up by price inflation in the markets in which those MWKs participate as consumers, like housing. Plus, we weren't really thinking about the economic and social costs of dual-income households, like paying others to perform domestic tasks.

I'm all for women having identical freedoms to men. But we didn't really consider the option of having the man stay home as primary caregiver, or other ways of addressing the problem. Now we've just suffered from the impact of inflation, pure and simple. For example, single working mothers wouldn't be as fucked as they are if they were competing in the resource marketplace with Ward Cleaver, Breadwinner alone. Or June Cleaver, Breadwinner, I don't care.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Yeah. I learned about that recently (like, within the last couple years) and really, I think that is almost more of a disincentive than all the pain. Pooing on yourself and possibly the baby? Yuck.

Why isn't the pooing potential included in descriptions of (or films of) childbirth? There's blood, there's placenta, there's "water" breaking, there's pain. All of which is gross (though a necessary part of the miracle of life, I know). But pooing? Insult to injury. Coup de grace. Blech.

You can elect to have an enema when you present in labor which I believe helps to avoid the problem. I did not poo (and did not have an enema -- fuck you, TM). I did fluff more than once which my husband now finds funny because he thought I was incapable of doing so -- and has redeveloped the belief since -- and he said it was "cute" how I pardoned myself to the nurse each time it happened. This was only while pushing before the doc came in -- I did not fluff in the doctor's face.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why isn't the pooing potential included in descriptions of (or films of) childbirth?

What?!?!? Oh my goodness, I never heard of that. That is exactly the sort of thing I would hold over my child's head like a sword every time it acted up for its entire freaking life to guilt-trip it.

Edited to add, I am completely humbled by you moms, and will never, ever whine about some minor ache or pain again.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Don't forget the ...

Every time I eat a late lunch at my desk, I get burned. Every fucking time.

What is that they say, about expecting different consequences from the same actions?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by bilmore
To the contrary - I think fat people are likely more appreciative of good food than are thin people.

Bullshit. Many thin people I know exercise b/c they love food so much. Fat people mostly eat shit food like chips and fries. Thin people eat GOOD food.

I've told people my consumption priority mostly looks like this:

1. Sex
2. Food
3. Liquor

Sometimes the GF says it's:

1. Sex
2. Liquor
3. Food

Or:

1. Sex
2. Sex
3. Sex

I would say that every once in a while it's:

1. Food
2. Sex
3. Liquor

But that's when the food is phenomenal.

Also, some people have a large spectrum of food "like-a-bility". For example, some food registers as a 2 out of 10 and other food is a 9 out of 10. My spectrum starts at 6. Even bad food is a 6. And most food is at least a 7.

I like food.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I was just thinking about this this morning -- that fat looks better tan, but in general, large people cover more of their bodies with clothes.* If the body is all covered up, it can't get tan.** An exacerbating factor is that the paler and more fish-belly-like your fat is, the more you want to cover it up.

Apparently you've never vacationed where there be Germans.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
You can elect to have an enema when you present in labor which I believe helps to avoid the problem. I did not poo (and did not have an enema -- fuck you, TM). I did fluff more than once which my husband now finds funny because he thought I was incapable of doing so -- and has redeveloped the belief since -- and he said it was "cute" how I pardoned myself to the nurse each time it happened. This was only while pushing before the doc came in -- I did not fluff in the doctor's face.

Okay, you did NOT just use the word "fluff" in a sentence to mean fart, did you? I can't stand it!

Recently, I was out with my mother, my sister in law, and my 2 year old niece. My niece started to have a tantrum about something and my mother said "I think she's pissed off and M-A-D". Why she spelled MAD is beyond me.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I've told people my consumption priority mostly looks like this:

1. Sex
2. Food
3. Liquor

That is also my preferred order of consumption.

I have never understood why the traditional romantic date involves a nice dinner, or more specifically, why anybody plans to have sex after a traditional romantic date. I usually feel too full after the risotto to want to romp around, and if I had a few drinks during the evening, I will likely be asleep by the time that full feeling has passed.

If I am really hot for a guy that I'm out to dinner with, I'll eat light.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Sidd, if you want to take how I live my life as a commentary on yours, feel free.

I might, but probably not the way you intend.

Ditto if you wish to to so interpret my gentle self-mockery of my anachronistic sensibilities.

You post, I read. I take your words for what they mean. In the context of a discussion where people have taken strongly differing positions, blanket statements about what is "correct" do not come across as self-mockery.

Given your readiness to condemn people for what they likely, if stupidly, regard as harmless pleasantries ("where's your mommy?"), I would think you could see this.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Just as fat looks better tan, pap sounds better with a British accent.

Translation: I met Britassoc this summer.

Thurgreed(damn. that's cold even for me, which must surely make it obvious i'm joking)Marshall

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Apparently you've never vacationed where there be Germans.

Dammit Sidd, read the footnotes!! Read the footnotes!!

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
That is also my preferred order of consumption.

I have never understood why the traditional romantic date involves a nice dinner, or more specifically, why anybody plans to have sex after a traditional romantic date. I usually feel too full after the risotto to want to romp around, and if I had a few drinks during the evening, I will likely be asleep by the time that full feeling has passed.

If I am really hot for a guy that I'm out to dinner with, I'll eat light.

Well, it was more of an order of importance, not a chronological list. If it were chrono I would say something like this:

1. Sex
2. Liquor
3. Food
4. Liquor
5. Sex
6. Maybe some assplay?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
BR(the question "do you have kids" is of course not offensive, but just about any follow up other than "How many? How old? Names? Has your's started asking for the [insert new toy] yet?" asked in the search for an actual conversation topic is offensive)C

DS, why don't you have kids?

TM