Removing the feeding tube from our aging hipster plaid pants

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
What happens when you search for Bold N Brazen?

My name search yields results up to 2 moves ago, but not my more recent addresses. Generally my birthdate is correct, but in 2 cases it lists my birth year as 1946. It is really 1956.

And some of the satellite photos are incorrect. The satellite photo feature is kind of creepy.

I don't exist, under any of the variations of my real name. Nice (keeps the stalkers away). Anne Elk doesn't exist either.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

NotBob, Sebby, Coltrane, etc. Ties, suits, shirts, etc.

NotBob, you may wear stripey ties to your heart's content. My main objection is that they are kinda boring (and, if viewed in their historical context, hopelessly pretentious & redolent of middle class striving), but they definitely serve a purpose for lawyers in that they are, in the US, the ultimate "reliable conservative" tie. Same goes for button down collars - techinically they are a mite too casual for a serious dress business suit, but they also are non-fussy and conservative-seeming and therefore symbolically useful and appropriate to our profession. Basically, button down + stripey tie = UMC daddy, which is the ideal image for most lawyers.

My only caveat is if one wears an actual school or regimental tie, one should have gone to that school or served in the regiment. Really this applies only to UK schools, since few (if any) US schools have school ties that are really supposed to indicate "I went to X school!" (my undergrad "school tie" is some abomination of powder blue that somehow only looks right in polyester and no one in their right mind would ever wear, for example - and God help Princeton people if school tie wearing every catches on here). One can immediately tell a British school or regimental tie because they are on the sinister, while American stripey ties are on the dexter (though I notice the UK bends showing up in US stores with some regularity now, so beware). I'd also note that stripey school and regimental ties shouldn't be worn in London, NYC or DC - wear the crest instead.

On seersucker & linen, I adore both, but I have some southern background that might explain that. Sebby - if the linen suits you see are baggy, you are finding crappy linen suits. Good linen suits are as well cut (and structured & faced, etc.) as other suits - and about as expensive. For reference to what a good linen suit looks like, I point you to the suit Pierce Brosnan wore in the Cuban clinic scenes in Die Another Day. That said, I agree that most linen suits one sees (in stores or on victims) are shapeless messes. Some people can pull off the rumpled paper bag look, but most can't.

Re: white linen, this is a hard, hard look to pull off, though I love it when it works. I agree it is safest on civil servants and planters in tropical third-world banana republics. The resurgence of the Miami Vice look doesn't surprise me, but it's not a good thing (though I am sympathetic to the position that Miami is a tropical third-world banana republic). Certainly, white linen should only be worn (i) baggy on hugely fat third-world oppressors or southern mayors or (ii) strictly structured on anyone else. Everyone not currently filming a Miami Vice remake should wear white linen (a) as an entire suit and (b) with a tie or open-collared dress shirt (with the sleeves rolled down!). If that looks costumey on you, take it off. If you can wear it with a black tie and not look like Mr. Rourke, more power to you.

On seersucker, while the traditional blue and white makes me hopelessly nostalgic 'cause my daddy had one just like that, I congratulate RT (and J Crew, actually) for reminding people that it's not the only color, and other colors manage to be cool (in temp., at least) without looking quite so ... seersuckery, as the blue ones.

Now, Sebby, if we can just get you wearing socks on occasion - you are supposed to be wearing bucks or saddle shoes with that seersucker, and those need socks!

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I am not, but I am still careful, because I worry about the criticisms sebby lays on those who would wear point collars.

Let me assure everyone that I do not wear button-down collars with a suit.

I wear both point collars and button-downs on occasion. So do most of the lawyers and nearly all of the male judges here. Of course, I'm not handicapped by having to live in Philly, so I guess I can get away with more than Sebby.

[Alex_de_Large]

White smoke and bells in Rome, per CNN.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I wear both point collars and button-downs on occasion. So do most of the lawyers and nearly all of the male judges here.

Lawyers and judges, the editorial board of GQ.

Brother, lawyers are one of the worst dressed crowds on Earth, just behind doctors and accountants. I've sat across from big time partners and wanted to say "Were you fucking drunk when you got dressed this morning?"

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
NotBob, you may wear stripey ties to your heart's content. My main objection is that they are kinda boring (and, if viewed in their historical context, hopelessly pretentious & redolent of middle class striving), but they definitely serve a purpose for lawyers in that they are, in the US, the ultimate "reliable conservative" tie. Same goes for button down collars - techinically they are a mite too casual for a serious dress business suit, but they also are non-fussy and conservative-seeming and therefore symbolically useful and appropriate to our profession. Basically, button down + stripey tie = UMC daddy, which is the ideal image for most lawyers.

Sigh. And they wonder why I love you.

(The bold is why I wear them, actually. Except for the "hopelessly pretentious" line. That just amused me, and if I ever get to pick the name of a thread after we hit 5000, that is my nominee.)

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
My only caveat is if one wears an actual school or regimental tie, one should have gone to that school or served in the regiment.

As much as it pains me to say it, we must agree to disagree on this one, my dear. My foremothers shot German mercenaries in the back 230 or so years ago to give me the right to expropriate the tie of the 1st Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders* if I so desire. (Well, actually my actual foremothers were too busy growing potatoes and sprouting out babies in County Clare in 1776 to be shooting Hessians in New Jersey, but I was talking about my metaphorical foremothers. Anyway, you know what I mean.) And I won't wear it to the Liberal Club on one of my many visits to London, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
One can immediately tell a British school or regimental tie because they are on the sinister, while American stripey ties are on the dexter (though I notice the UK bends showing up in US stores with some regularity now, so beware).

That explains why the Desert Rat vet called me a bastard (hahahahahahaha!). Seriously, I think that Ben Silver sells them with the stripes going in the British way, while Brooks Brothers has them the other. I'm not sure -- I have ties from both, so whatever.

*Pic of Not Bob's tie:

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Lawyers and judges, the editorial board of GQ.

Brother, lawyers are one of the worst dressed crowds on Earth, just behind doctors and accountants. I've sat across from big time partners and wanted to say "Were you fucking drunk when you got dressed this morning?"

If you actually dress like 90% of what passes for fashion in the pages of GQ, then I begin to understand why Carson Cressley can purport to be a fashion maven. And I thank the Good Lord that I am not.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Regimental striped ties.

Unless you're Angus Young, they probably don't look good on you.

A whole lot of stupid shitheads around this rats arsehole wear them because they think it makes them look like they're members at Merion. Fucking idiots.

You can wear your school's colors. Unless you're me, because two much larger schools have the same colors, one of which did horribly at this year's NCAAs. I don't want to falsely advertise.

[dtb]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Well, I'm only 6'4" on the internet, but the hurt carries over to real life.

Ahem. Perhaps I may offer some officious advice? Yes; I shall:

I think you meant to say "I'm 6'4" only on the internet..."


As you were.



On another note -- you folks have had me cracking up this morning -- I keep having to find excuses as to what is just so darned funny about the documents I'm reading.

Also, the trading guys are shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, to learn that we have been "betting" on the deaths of our fellow humans. Traders are appalled at what they consider to be our amorality. I think that qualifies as a new low.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
White smoke and bells in Rome, per CNN.

I hope it's not too disappointing for Gibblets.

I think it's funny that they have to delay the announcement until he (I'm assuming it's a he...) can get fitted for a new suit.

God fucking damnit, they went with the German.

At least he's old.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by taxwonk
If you actually dress like 90% of what passes for fashion in the pages of GQ, then I begin to understand why Carson Cressley can purport to be a fashion maven. And I thank the Good Lord that I am not.

Lets just say you wouldn't miss me in a crowd, and I intend that result.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

God fucking damnit, they went with the German.

At least he's old.

So NotFromHere can keep the popesmokecam watching going. No way this one lasts 26 years.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have noticed that you look like George Muresan (horrible misspelling) in most court appearances.

Alex. Dude. You are not attractive.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I hope it's not too disappointing for Gibblets.

I think it's funny that they have to delay the announcement until he (I'm assuming it's a he...) can get fitted for a new suit.

God fucking damnit, they went with the German.

At least he's old.

He has to pick his shiney new name, as well...

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by dtb
Ahem. Perhaps I may offer some officious advice? Yes; I shall:

I think you meant to say "I'm 6'4" only on the internet..."

thank you for this. as usual with his posts i had to decipher, and here could only assume he now claimed that in real life he stood 6' 8" or more.