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03-22-2004, 01:20 PM
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#2311
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Yummy! Come to Texas!
Oh wait, you're already here.
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She told me to come but I was already there?
How about a little AC/DC running through your head...you can thank me later.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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03-22-2004, 01:24 PM
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#2312
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
She told me to come but I was already there?
How about a little AC/DC running through your head...you can thank me later.
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That is actually fine with me.
Note that me being up early and in a good mood all morning is so unusual as to portend the Apocolypse.
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03-22-2004, 01:32 PM
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#2313
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
That is actually fine with me.
Note that me being up early and in a good mood all morning is so unusual as to portend the Apocolypse.
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It appears that the end of the world already occurred, and you and I are the only two to have survived...
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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03-22-2004, 01:34 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
That is actually fine with me.
Note that me being up early and in a good mood all morning is so unusual as to portend the Apocolypse.
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I will consider it.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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03-22-2004, 01:35 PM
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
It appears that the end of the world already occurred, and you and I are the only two to have survived...
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You me and Shifty. For the future of the human race, I sure hope Shifty can mutate to a female human and is willing to bear children.
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03-22-2004, 01:36 PM
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Caustically Optimistic
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
It appears that the end of the world already occurred, and you and I are the only two to have survived...
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No, the rest of us are here (what, you thought we'd be swept up in the Rapture?), we just have little to say.
I'll throw out a fashion question and see if it sparks interest:
Pink.* Back**?
*the color, not the store or the entertainer
** for men, I mean.
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03-22-2004, 01:40 PM
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#2317
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
You me and Shifty. For the future of the human race, I sure hope Shifty can mutate to a female human and is willing to bear children.
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I know you're scared of it, but it won't hurt THAT much. More coke bottles than coke cans.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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03-22-2004, 01:43 PM
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#2318
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I know you're scared of it, but it won't hurt THAT much. More coke bottles than coke cans.
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How much are you expecting me to drink during pregnancies????
To answer your joke, I think the width of the bottom of a coke bottle* is about the same as a can, so that's not so reassuring. Maybe you should start discussing preferred lube brands with SS and balt. And I never said no sex, just no child bearing.
*assuming you are not talking about the 2-liter bottles
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03-22-2004, 01:44 PM
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#2319
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
How much are you expecting me to drink during pregnancies????
To answer your joke, I think the width of the bottom of a coke bottle* is about the same as a can, so that's not so reassuring. Maybe you should start discussing preferred lube brands with SS and balt. And I never said no sex, just no child bearing.
*assuming you are not talking about the 2-liter bottles
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It's going to take a lot of $2 you call its.
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03-22-2004, 01:46 PM
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Dawn of the Dead
I didn't see anything as "worthwhile" as lost in translation this weekend, but I did get to DotD, and have had a couple days to think on it.
As a horror movie, it is actually pretty top notch. Maybe not as good as 28 days later (more consideration below), but better than Cabin Fever, which I considered a pretty damn good horror flick. Pretty sincerely scary, generally pretty fast paced, and, amazingly, you actually come to give a damn about some of the characters. And that doesn't go well, of course.
As a remake of a true classic ... I'm still reserving judgment while I think about it. I don't think it is as good as the original, at least in the ways that I consider a horror movie to be really great (the FX, action & acting are all superior, but that's not really what gets me going for horror movies). I do, however, think that 90% of the reviews I've found so far (and all mainstream reviews) don't get it. Of course, they also don't get the original (though they think they do because, having totally missed the point the first time around they have read up on it and now blandly call a film they probably castigated in '78 a "brilliant" "classic" of "social criticism"), so that isn't surprising at all.
This film clearly owes a lot to 28DL, in its zombies, in shooting style and also in some of the interpersonal themes (though it may be more superficial than it first appears, particularly given that I still think the much-maligned last third of 28DL in the army bunker was very likely a thoughtful riff on Frank Herbert's White Plague). It also owes nods to Cannibal Holocaust (in the parts usually described as being "like Blair Witch" by reviewers with no real knowledge of the horror genre) and even Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things (of which I am unjustifiably fond). But I think, in the end, it owes most to the original, which I found rather surprising, given that the underlying tension of the movie is exactly the opposite.
I suppose one can't give a spoiler for a 25 year old movie, but pretty much everyone knows that the original DotD was about greed, commercialism and complacency. And it was brilliant - the scary thing about zombies is that they are you, there is, actually, no difference between the living and the dead in a zombie movie (or, if there is, it doesn't reflect terribly well on the living). This is why "traditional" zombies work as figures of horror - they aren't terribly fast, they aren't smart, they aren't coordinated, they aren't usually even particularly strong, but they are still incredibly dangerous and scary because they are you, or at least us. To speak in generalities, the same idea works in the remake, except, instead of the living wanting to stay in the mall and protect the mall, the living want nothing more than to escape the mall. The cold materialism and cynicsm of the original characters are largely absent (or reformed) - these people generally, even if reluctantly, want to reach out to others, to help, to start over. This is not the movie of the "me" generation, this is the movie of the disillusioned Gen Xers, who want desperately to escape the materialist trap of the boomers, who find themselves more worried about people and purpose than things. It works out no better for them, of course, but it is a much more interesting update, with more ideas that play interestingly in comparison to the original, than I think most reviewers (even horror-familiar ones) have picked up on.
Well, there are my thoughts on it.
BR(do stay through the credits)C
edited to add: this movie is not recommended for expecting parents.
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03-22-2004, 01:47 PM
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#2321
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
It's going to take a lot of $2 you call its.
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What the hell are you people talking about?
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03-22-2004, 01:52 PM
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#2322
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by baltassoc
I'll throw out a fashion question and see if it sparks interest:
Pink.* Back**?
*the color, not the store or the entertainer
** for men, I mean.
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No. All shades of pink (excluding neon) peach, coral, salmon are pretty prevalent in the womens' departments but I have not yet seen the return of the Don Johnson.
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03-22-2004, 01:54 PM
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#2323
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Lost in Translation
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Originally posted by NotFromHere
No. All shades of pink (excluding neon) peach, coral, salmon are pretty prevalent in the womens' departments but I have not yet seen the return of the Don Johnson.
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Seriously? I see men's pink dress shirts everywhere. But that's not new for this spring.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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03-22-2004, 01:55 PM
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#2324
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Actual Fashion Question (another in a series)
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
not all snotty people are coastal
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I have lived in coastal cities, and I have lived in landlocked cities, and in my experience the latter had the snottier people -- they were overcompensating for being in landlocked city, or something.
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03-22-2004, 01:56 PM
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#2325
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
From that description, you could also be Rochelle, Rochelle.
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So that's why Pynchon moved to NYC.
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