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Old 08-19-2005, 05:31 PM   #2326
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No, the above is a ridiculous response. Almost as ridiculous as your inability to spot a joke when its practically kicking you in the ballsack.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:39 PM   #2327
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Please. The Donkeys don't have anything even close to the artistry displayed by the photoshop warriors of the VRWC.
Dissent. You are just on the wrong clippings email lists. Go make friends on the DU, they will turn you on to the good stuff. I used to be on some of their lists, but my cover got blown.

eta: When is Hillary going to apologize for that "VRWC" comment?
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:47 PM   #2328
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Dissent. You are just on the wrong clippings email lists. Go make friends on the DU, they will turn you on to the good stuff. I used to be on some of their lists, but my cover got blown.
Kidding aside, I find the "W Looks Like A Chimp!" photoshops as offensive as I find the "Cindy Looks Like Gilligan" ones.

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eta: When is Hillary going to apologize for that "VRWC" comment?
What does she have to apologize for? There was a vast right wing conspiracy to discredit her husband. Unfortunately, until he cheated on Hillary, they didn't find anything that would stick.

I guess she should say that she was sorry that she said that the VRWC made up Monica. I suspect that that will happen after hell freezes over, or when Richard Sciafe, et al, apologize for trying to pin Vince Foster's death on her and/or Bill. Whichever comes first.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:50 PM   #2329
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I guess she should say that she was sorry that she said that the VRWC made up Monica. I suspect that that will happen after hell freezes over, or when Richard Sciafe, et al, apologize for trying to pin Vince Foster's death on her and/or Bill. Whichever comes first.
Or, she could apologize for misnaming it. "Vast" suggests a significant number of folks, when in truth it inclues primarily Scaife, Murdoch, Limbaugh, and Franken*. (Hannity's application is pending.)

A proper apology and correction would include "RWC the size of Jude Law's member."








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Old 08-19-2005, 05:56 PM   #2330
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On the other hand, no one said they observed keyboards with missing and damaged keys during previous transitions, as numerous people said they observed in the White House complex during the 2001 transition.
It's amazing how just like *that* you go from not knowing where to find accounts of what happened in prior transitions to expertly recounting exactly what happened in prior transitions. To the best of my knowledge, Bush I staffers left the "C," "L," "I," "N," "T," and "O" keys on the keyboards. I regret that you have made me type that for the second time today. What the hell is the matter with your attention span?

And there are many things that are funnier at the office than at home. I attribute this to the stultifying nature of most offices -- YMMV.
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Kidding aside, I find the "W Looks Like A Chimp!" photoshops as offensive
they are. He is the president. But of course, the Clintons taught us to disrespect that office.

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What does she have to apologize for? There was a vast right wing conspiracy to discredit her husband. Unfortunately, until he cheated on Hillary, they didn't find anything that would stick.
Notwithstanding that there was no conspiracy, she should say that she was sorry that she said that the VRWC made up Monica. also, she should explain the serious consequences that should have attached to her husbands behaviour and why as the self-proclaimed co-President she neglected to call for the application of serious consequences and instead mocked the impeachmet process.


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I guess she should say that she was sorry that she said that the VRWC made up Monica. I suspect that that will happen when Richard Sciafe, et al, apologize for trying to pin Vince Foster's death on her and/or Bill. Whichever comes first.
Your first sentence is good, but of course you qualify it wht the other clause. Why? What perjury exception is invoked here? We either have laws or we don't and if we do and there are not exceptions why do the democrats feel that there is some non-existent, "thje devil named scaife or starr made me do it" defence??? Scaife was a private citizen. the first amendment entitled him to say what he did. Unlike Soros whose behaviour borders on treason.
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Or, she could apologize for misnaming it. "Vast" suggests a significant number of folks, when in truth it inclues primarily Scaife, Murdoch, Limbaugh, and Franken*. (Hannity's application is pending.)

A proper apology and correction would include "RWC the size of Jude Law's member."

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It's amazing how just like *that* you go from not knowing where to find accounts of what happened in prior transitions to expertly recounting exactly what happened in prior transitions. To the best of my knowledge, Bush I staffers left the "C," "L," "I," "N," "T," and "O" keys on the keyboards. I regret that you have made me type that for the second time today. What the hell is the matter with your attention span?

And there are many things that are funnier at the office than at home. I attribute this to the stultifying nature of most offices -- YMMV.
You just can't admit its wrong, can you? [sigh]

If nothing else Ty, out of a sense of comradery for a fellow moderator, I hope you put down the kool-ade and replace it with wine tonight. The latter is a much more enjoyable duller of the senses.
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:28 PM   #2334
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they are. He is the president. But of course, the Clintons taught us to disrespect that office.
It has nothing to do with whether he is the president or not. It's simply offensive. I didn't like it when people made fun of: Nixon's wife and daughters for being Stepford robots, Betty Ford's alcoholism, Amy Carter for saying that nuclear war is bad, Ron Reagan for being a ballet dancer, Barbara Bush for looking like GHWB's mother, Chelsea's looks, or the twins for being college students.

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Your first sentence is good, but of course you qualify it wht the other clause. Why? What perjury exception is invoked here? We either have laws or we don't and if we do and there are not exceptions why do the democrats feel that there is some non-existent, "thje devil named scaife or starr made me do it" defence??? Scaife was a private citizen. the first amendment entitled him to say what he did. Unlike Soros whose behaviour borders on treason.
I'm not qualifying anything. I just don't think that she'll apologize, irregardless (ha!) of whether I think she should or shouldn't. And she should, because she was wrong about Monica. But there *was* a concerted and organized effort to bring down her husband, so she doesn't need to apologize for saying that.

And perjury? I was unaware that Katie Couric put people under the oath on the Today Show.

Sure, Scaife can say what he wants. And he can spend a lot of money to pay a convicted felon with an axe to grind in Arkansas to tell all sorts of stories in Little Rock to the gullible national press. And Clinton-hating Jesse Helms' disciples on the DC Circuit can get together to pick Starr to take over as special prosecutor. And Federalist Society lawyers working at Starr's law firm can ghostwrite pleadings for Paula Jones's lawyers. And commentators on the cable shows who are law school classmates of them (hello, Laura I?) can use the echo chamber to create more stories.
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You just can't admit its wrong, can you? [sigh]

If nothing else Ty, out of a sense of comradery for a fellow moderator, I hope you put down the kool-ade and replace it with wine tonight. The latter is a much more enjoyable duller of the senses.
Isn't it sad that you would so much rather discuss the W keys on White House keyboards than go back to talking about Bush's massive error in invading Iraq?
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It has nothing to do with whether he is the president or not. It's simply offensive. I didn't like it when people made fun of: Nixon's wife and daughters for being Stepford robots, Betty Ford's alcoholism, Amy Carter for saying that nuclear war is bad, Ron Reagan for being a ballet dancer, Barbara Bush for looking like GHWB's mother, Chelsea's looks, or the twins for being college students.
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Otoh I agree, but otoh, there should be a respect for the office and our system of laws. the clintons had neither ad they set that example for the nation.

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I'm not qualifying anything. I just don't think that she'll apologize, irregardless (ha!) of whether I think she should or shouldn't. And she should, because she was wrong about Monica. But there *was* a concerted and organized effort to bring down her husband, so she doesn't need to apologize for saying that.
Sticking the but in the sentence (NPI) is qualifying it. If she was wrong, and she was, on several levels, she should apologize to the American public. I agree that it is unlikely, but that doesn;t change what is right and what is wrong. I find the fact that the lberals can't just admit something is wrong without qualification to be their downfall.




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Sure, Scaife can say what he wants. And he can spend a lot of money to pay a convicted felon with an axe to grind in Arkansas to tell all sorts of stories in Little Rock to the gullible national press. And Clinton-hating Jesse Helms' disciples on the DC Circuit can get together to pick Starr to take over as special prosecutor. And Federalist Society lawyers working at Starr's law firm can ghostwrite pleadings for Paula Jones's lawyers. And commentators on the cable shows who are law school classmates of them (hello, Laura I?) can use the echo chamber to create more stories.

So the whole system lacks integrity? the judges, the legislators, all worked for Scaife? Starr didn't have a 20 year history as a reputable and honourable lawyer and jurist? And why shouldn't Paula Jones' have had justice? Clinton has an adult lifetime littered with a record of being a sexual abuser/harasser of women. What is so hard to believe about Jones' allegations? If it is so attractive and enriching to make these allegatons against a sitting president, why aren't women doing it to Bush? Certainly Soros would fund the lawyers? Is it maybe because Clinton is a rapist?
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Isn't it sad that you would so much rather discuss the W keys on White House keyboards than go back to talking about Bush's massive error in invading Iraq?
The "w" keys are a metaphor for integrity and responsibility, something the Clinton crowd never had and doesn't quite understand.
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Or, she could apologize for misnaming it. "Vast" suggests a significant number of folks, when in truth it inclues primarily Scaife, Murdoch, Limbaugh, and Franken*. (Hannity's application is pending.)

A proper apology and correction would include "RWC the size of Jude Law's member."

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Franken? Al Franken? If that is a joke I don't get it.

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Franken? Al Franken? If that is a joke I don't get it.

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In your heart, you secretly agree that Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot?

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Isn't it sad that you would so much rather discuss the W keys on White House keyboards than go back to talking about Bush's massive error in invading Iraq?
It is way too early to judge that. All we can be sure about the future is that it will be different than we all expect.

One other thing, it is pretty hard for me to imagine an Iraq turning into the type of country where I would say they would have been better off with Saddam Hussein. That would have to be one nasty civil war and it would have to last one hell of a long time.

If you believe the country would have been better of had we not invaded how do you explain the net increase in population (huge return of Iraqi exiles) as compared to a constant decrease in population the entire time Saddam was in power (I have seen estimates that one fourth of the countries population either left or were killed). If it is so bad why are people returning and not leaving.
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