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Old 08-20-2004, 02:57 PM   #2356
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Slate fisks the Swift Vets.

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That's a good theory, except that Bush (a) has repeatedly commended Kerry for his service, (b) disavowed all 527 groups, and (c) has not commented on Swiftboatgate, and (d) despite Kerry's false accusations, is not affiliated in anyway with the Switftees.
Moreover, what Kerry is calling on Bush to do would be illegal. Kerry is calling on Bush to tell the Swiftboat Vets for Truth to pull their ad. It is against the law for him to coordinate with those 50something groups.

Not only is Kerry a liar, he advocates people breaking the law.
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Old 08-20-2004, 02:58 PM   #2357
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I guess so, maybe, sorta in the way that bumfights or the FB two days ago are funny.
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:01 PM   #2358
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Instead, that the GOP is attacking Kerry's VN record as as proof that he's a lying, preening, cowardly, baby-killer sack of shit
The GOP isn't attacking Kerry. Vietnam vets who served with Kerry are.
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:02 PM   #2359
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Bush lies, again.

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Do people really consider Cheez Whiz to be a good thing on a sandwich?
I'm not a Philadelphian, but I learned from friends who've lived there* that the proper cheesesteak at Gino's or Pat's is indeed a "steak Whiz." This is the default for natives. When offered a choice, I go for the provolone anyway. My commitment to cultural anthropology is not strong enough to "go native" by consumption of petroleum byproducts.

*Fair warning: they were UPenn students, so they may have been exaggerating in order to emphasize the provincial charm of their neighborhoods.
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:05 PM   #2360
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Speaking of the FB two days ago, did Slave quit or is he just pouting?
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:05 PM   #2361
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I'm not a Philadelphian, but I learned from friends who've lived there* that the proper cheesesteak at Gino's or Pat's is indeed a "steak Whiz." This is the default for natives. When offered a choice, I go for the provolone anyway. My commitment to cultural anthropology is not strong enough to "go native" by consumption of petroleum byproducts.

*Fair warning: they were UPenn students, so they may have been exaggerating in order to emphasize the provincial charm of their neighborhoods.
I prefer the provolone too, but the Whiz is actually pretty good. We have a place here called Philly's Best that flies the beef in and does a reasonable facsimile of a Philly Cheesesteak. After all, man cannot live on sah-sage alone...
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:09 PM   #2362
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Slate fisks the Swift Vets.

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I like how the responses have been framed too. Directly, Bush said he hasn't seen the ads, but he'd like to see work done on these type of soft money groups. I don't even remember which side is for the ban, but the evenhanded tone of his remark was that hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right Democrats?
The complaint about Michael Moore's movie was that he said a lot of things that were true and left viewers to infer connections between them that were unstated because they weren't true, or couldn't be supported. There were relatively few complaints that the specific allegations made in the movie were untrue.*

The complaint about the Swift Vets is that they are exploiting the media's efforts at even-handedness by airing lies. So, no -- they are different species, not goose and gander.

*(I know they're out there, and I know he responded, and I haven't and don't want to see the movie so I'm not going to argue about that detail -- my point is about the preponderance of the complaints about Moore.)

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Indirectly, Fox News commentators were saying where was Kerry for the Moveon ads?
Kerry condemned the Moveon ads, which only reminds us all that FOX is not working very hard to maintain that pretense of neutrality.

BTW, I don't recall that anyone found anything inaccurate in the Moveon ads.
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:09 PM   #2363
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Bush lies, again.

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I'm not a Philadelphian,
No shit?
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but I learned from friends who've lived there* that the proper cheesesteak at Gino's or Pat's is indeed a "steak Whiz." This is the default for natives. When offered a choice, I go for the provolone anyway. My commitment to cultural anthropology is not strong enough to "go native" by consumption of petroleum byproducts.

*Fair warning: they were UPenn students, so they may have been exaggerating in order to emphasize the provincial charm of their neighborhoods.
To ask U Penn students why real people do, is of course silly.

A cheese steak can have cheese whiz, or provalone or American. The president's order is fine. On the other hand. the article, by mentioning "white bread" and " fried onions" loses any credibility.

JFK? Swiss cheese is not even an option. Maybe he fell back to what he had rehearsed for the Wendy's photo op?
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:12 PM   #2364
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She just cracks me up. For those of you that don't see the humor in this, I feel sorry for you:
I agree with much if not most and maybe all of what she has to say, but she has to work on her delivery. She comes across as such a nasty, foul bitch. If she would say what she has to say with a more pleasant look on her face, she wouldn't turn so many people off.

I think that is a big part of Rush's widespread (pun intended) appeal (at least pre-drug Rush) - he laughs while ranting. She just has this sour, vile look/tone/demeanor and it is not at all appealing even to someone who agrees with what she has to say.
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:13 PM   #2365
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JFK? Swiss cheese is not even an option.
If you want to get a sub in Boston, get a baked Ham & Swiss. Maybe here, for $4.59, though that wasn't my favorite place. To make one of these, you need a sub shop with a pizza oven, something San Francisco needs more of.
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Speaking of the FB two days ago, did Slave quit or is he just pouting?
He's in Vegas fucking some mutant tiger.
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:20 PM   #2368
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Slate fisks the Swift Vets.

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Not "affiliated in any way," huh? . . . (Plus lots more.)
You, who spent months screaming the Bush Lied!! tripe even as your case came apart, now post - what? - five inches talking about how Bush and crew are character-ripping by ommission?

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The complaint about Michael Moore's movie was that he said a lot of things that were true
If the line now is that Moore was truthful in that movie, then the gulf of intellectual disparity has become too wide for communication.
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Old 08-20-2004, 03:26 PM   #2370
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If you want to get a sub in Boston, get a baked Ham & Swiss. Maybe here, for $4.59, though that wasn't my favorite place.
This is proof you are insane. When visiting Boston, unless at a Red Sox game, one should only eat seafood.
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