Still Hating America. - Page 158

Adder · 03-12-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Yes, you can drive over w/o a passport for a few more months, but WTF?

How many fearsome terrorists are going to be deterred from crossing an unguarded 3,000 mile border by the passport requirement? While the rest of us have to get passports for the 2 year olds.

The Bush administration just likes intrusive government.

I saw a segment on CNN (or some such) about a border crossing WAY up north in Minnesota, near Lake of the Woods. It is an unmanned booth with a video phone in it.

I am sure that the new passport requirement will really cut down on illegal crossings there.

Hank Chinaski · 03-12-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Adder
I saw a segment on CNN (or some such) about a border crossing WAY up north in Minnesota, near Lake of the Woods. It is an unmanned booth with a video phone in it.

I am sure that the new passport requirement will really cut down on illegal crossings there.

please.

please stop.

please stop writing.

please stop writing, like.

please stop writing like this.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-12-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I find this odd. The hoops for getting a children's passport are much higher. Both parents have to be present, and there are other things. The concern is that one parent will abduct a child to a foreign country, and the other will have no way to get them back.

So, we then exempt people going to Canada from the passport requirement for children?

Canada is not and never has been a foreign country. It's not like going to Texas or, god forbid, Arkansas.

Hank Chinaski · 03-12-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Canada is not and never has been a foreign country. It's not like going to Texas or, god forbid, Arkansas.

it used to be such a non-event to cross, unless Canadian customs was on a work stoppage, then they'd hassle everyone "Why woould you not have brought proof of citizenship. You are entering another country you know?"

But this one time we're taking our kids and daughter's friend for dim sum. friend is a russian immigrant and still has only a green card. It really raised some hackles trying to get in and then back. Everyone thought I might be a kidnapper.

andViolins · 03-12-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I find this odd. The hoops for getting a children's passport are much higher. Both parents have to be present, and there are other things. The concern is that one parent will abduct a child to a foreign country, and the other will have no way to get them back.

So, we then exempt people going to Canada from the passport requirement for children?

Children exempt from some passport regulations
Associated Press
March 11, 2007

Regulations that would require passports for future entry into the U.S. by land and sea have been modified to exempt children.

U.S. and Canadian citizens ages 15 or younger (with parental consent) will be allowed to cross borders, both at land and sea entry points, with certified copies of their birth certificates rather than passports.

Those age 16 through 18 traveling with school, religious, cultural or athletic groups and under adult supervision will also be allowed to travel with only their birth certificates.

The Bush administration said the move is aimed at helping families and school groups.

The exemption is a change from earlier plans that would have required passports for land and sea entry into the U.S. for children beginning as early as January 2008.

Children traveling by air are still required to show passports for entry into the U.S. from Mexico, Canada, Bermuda or the Caribbean (except for U.S. territories Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands), under rules that went into effect Jan. 23.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/featu....asp?ID=177733

aV

Spanky · 03-12-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I believe I am the closest thing to a true libertarian on the board.

I could be wrong, but I think Club or Slave beat you on this:

Do you think the income tax should be repealed?

Do you think that welfare and social security should be abolished?

Do you believe anyone can own any firearm they want?

Do you believe that public education, if not abolished should be at least switched to a voucher system?

Do you think all drugs and prostitution should be legalized?

Do you think all zoning laws and similar laws should be aboloshed?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-12-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky

Do you think the income tax should be repealed?

How are we going to fund the courts that enforce property rights?

03-12-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How are we going to fund the courts that enforce property rights?

From the taxes on drugs, prostitution and gun sales. Duh.

greatwhitenorthchick · 03-12-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Canada is not and never has been a foreign country. It's not like going to Texas or, god forbid, Arkansas.

This is why we secretly hate you all.

Spanky · 03-12-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How are we going to fund the courts that enforce property rights?

Poll tax

Spanky · 03-12-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
This is why we secretly hate you all.

You guys are bitter because you have to share our telephone country code.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-12-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
From the taxes on drugs, prostitution and gun sales. Duh.

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Originally posted by Spanky
Poll tax

Bzzt.

The correct answer is a loser-pays litigation system, with all court costs borne by the losing party. And that includes criminals, who can bust rocks to pay the debt.

03-12-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
This is why we secretly hate you all.

"Secretly"?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-12-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I could be wrong, but I think Club or Slave beat you on this:

Do you think the income tax should be repealed?

Do you think that welfare and social security should be abolished?

Do you believe anyone can own any firearm they want?

Do you believe that public education, if not abolished should be at least switched to a voucher system?

Do you think all drugs and prostitution should be legalized?

Do you think all zoning laws and similar laws should be aboloshed?

I answer half those in the affirmative, and am not sure any of you all would. I also would dismantle much of the military, open the borders, support truly unrestricted free speech, and repeal the Patriot Act and all similar intrusive governmental regulation.

You guys like to only pay attention to half the libertarian agenda. I'm not a libertarian, but I have stronger libertarian values than those of you who try to clump libertarians together with federalists.

SlaveNoMore · 03-12-2007, 07:50 PM

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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I answer half those in the affirmative, and am not sure any of you all would. I also would dismantle much of the military, open the borders, support truly unrestricted free speech, and repeal the Patriot Act and all similar intrusive governmental regulation.

You guys like to only pay attention to half the libertarian agenda. I'm not a libertarian, but I have stronger libertarian values than those of you who try to clump libertarians together with federalists.

Whatever, Papist.