Patting the wrists, rolling the eyes.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Yes. And when you are a party that has not courted the hispanic vote, it is very hard to fight charges of racism. I disagree with Spanky that the GOP woes in CA are a problem of branding. They are a product of incredibly poor organization, communication, and recruitment.

I agree with you about the communication, but that has been my central point in a way.

When somebody mischaracterizes you or your party, tell them loudly to fuck off. And correct the mischaracterization.

Of course, this would surely get tiring in a state like California (i.e., filled with leftist cartoonists), but its necessary. Otherwise, before you know it, the kids are coming home from school with books that say your party hates minorities and oppresses the poor.

This would be a lot easier if the freaking Bush I and II people could try and reach out a bit (a lot) more to minorities etc..., and I appreciate how that hampers your ability to counter allegations of racism.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
That is true. But is there one federal elected Democrat out there that is against farm subsidies?

So when you say that the social conservatives are "knee-jerk free marketers", you actually meant to add "except when the Democrats are against it"?


And do your own googling.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Andrea Dworkin died on Friday.

I wonder if the right would attack her views and policy proposals on pornography now as vehemently as they did in the late 80s/early 90s.

[Replaced_Texan]

I love a country where this (spree: link to links of video of "America We Stand as One") can be turned into this (spree: link directly to video of "America (Fuck Ya) We Stand as One").

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Spanky
You forgot Specialized tax breaks for large corporations. I never said they were perfect. Just a hell of a lot better than the Dems.

Not really. I'd say they were far worse. But then, I bet you knew that.

[sgtclub]

• "Last year too many people were denied their right to vote, too many who tried to vote were intimidated," the Massachusetts senator said at an event sponsored by the state League of Women Voters.
  
  "There is no magic wand. No one person is going to stand up and suddenly say it's going to change tomorrow. You have to do that," he said.
  
  Kerry supporters have charged that voting irregularities in largely Democratic areas made it difficult for voters to cast ballots in the November election. A lawsuit in Ohio cited long lines and a shortage of voting machines in predominantly minority neighborhoods, but the Ohio Supreme Court dismissed the suit.
  
  Kerry also cited examples Sunday of how people were duped into not voting.
  
  "Leaflets are handed out saying Democrats vote on Wednesday, Republicans vote on Tuesday. People are told in telephone calls that if you've ever had a parking ticket, you're not allowed to vote," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/....ap/index.html

[sgtclub]

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[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
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You said go away. We went. Quitcher bitchin'.

[sgtclub]

From Andrew Sullivan:

• It behooves me to write that I'm chastened - and extremely heartened - by the progress we're making in Iraq. The elections were obviously the key - and they should have been scheduled at least a year before they were. But it's equally true that the constancy of our amazing troops, and the magic of democracy, are turning this long hard slog into a long hard slog with an end in sight. The criticisms of the past endure. But the fundamental objective seems to be within sight. The right decision - to remove Saddam - is no longer being stymied by wrong decisions. I feared the worst. I was wrong.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
From Andrew Sullivan:

• It behooves me to write that I'm chastened - and extremely heartened - by the progress we're making in Iraq. The elections were obviously the key - and they should have been scheduled at least a year before they were. But it's equally true that the constancy of our amazing troops, and the magic of democracy, are turning this long hard slog into a long hard slog with an end in sight. The criticisms of the past endure. But the fundamental objective seems to be within sight. The right decision - to remove Saddam - is no longer being stymied by wrong decisions. I feared the worst. I was wrong.

How many times is he gonna switch teams?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Anyone (D or R) who isn't from a farm state. No one likes them as policy.

I think you are wrong on that. I think even big city Dems support them although I have nothing to back that up.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
I think you are wrong on that. I think even big city Dems support them although I have nothing to back that up.

Well, there's Charles Schumer but, as I said, do your own Googling.


Seriously, the parties' positions on farm subsidies reflect some of their worst vote-pandering conduct (and, in turn, reflect the severe problems that the Electoral College one-state-two-senators system causes this country).

But your claim was that certain Repubs were "knee-jerk free marketers" and I pointed out farm subsidies as a glaring contradiction to this. Your response -- "but the Dems support them too!" -- is, well, non-responsive (even if accurate -- which it is to some extent, but not nearly to the extent you claim). If you want to admire Santorum for being "knee-jerk free market.... except when it might cost him some votes," be honest about it. Omitting the second half of a key sentence is beneath you, spankster.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
I think you are wrong on that. I think even big city Dems support them although I have nothing to back that up.

No way, Jose. It's pure pork, nothing more. Everyone knows that.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Spanky
I think you are wrong on that. I think even . . . although I have nothing to back that up.

While not "new board motto" worthy, I do think this is certainly a board mantra.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
How many times is he gonna switch teams?

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