Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Query: would you rather your son date Chelsea, or your daughter date a Kennedy heir who has just pulled into your driveway in his car?

In real life context, I would go with the latter. Notwithstanding anything else, the age difference on the former creeps me out too much.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Harrumph, harrumph, harrumph, harrumph, harrumph... Calling politicians liars, particularly in the current political winds, is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.

The distinction between Bush and Clinton upon which you justify your dislike of Bubba and affinity for W is that W lies for a purpose - to achieve a greater good, but Bubba just lied for self gain. You seem to think W's lies are allright, because he;s not just trying to get rich or keep power. Shit, he was already born rich, and powerful. I think thats a horseshit distinction, particularly where Bush's lies cost lives and Clinton's cost what? Embarrassment to himself? And if thats the best distinction you can offer (which it seems to be because its always your lead argument), then you ain't got much in the barrel.

They're all liars. Clintons, Bushes... same filthy political animals.

I didn't say liars, they are all that, I said felons, grifters, defrauding the government dole at our expense.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
No -- could you hang on a sec while I run and get my wife's copy of the DSM-IV?

Oh please, I have my wife's copy right here. what do you want to know?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Are you talking to me? What question?

Hank -- the whole "Clintons murdered x and y and z" is not a schtick. Penske believes it -- see? He can't say that he does not.

Maybe not directly, but complicit. Two words, Vince Foster. That's an easy one.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
There's an even better distinction:

The Clintons are worse than the Bushes because Hillary lies and Laura is basically mute...

...notwithstanding the fact that Hillary has yet to be caught in a lie, let alone a lie under oath. Isn't that the rule? Lying is OK as long as no one gets caught doing it under oath? Oh, wait. I forgot. The rules change when they don't benefit the current administration and its willfully ignorant minions.

Her comment about her husband not being in an affair with Lewinsky on the Today show was a lie.

Laura Bush doesn't need to say anything, she wasn't elected, who cares what she thinks, truth or not.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Penske is nuts, sure. But that doesn't justify a statement as incredible as this one.

2. Way to have my back Hank. I promise to be a good step-dad.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Her comment about her husband not being in an affair with Lewinsky on the Today show was a lie.

I can only speculate, but I presume that statement fell into the "thought true but eventually proven incorrect" category. Persecute if you must, but your willful forgetfulness of the current Administration's embrace of this mantra must be taxing.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I can only speculate, but I presume that statement fell into the "thought true but eventually proven incorrect" category. Persecute if you must, but your willful forgetfulness of the current Administration's embrace of this mantra must be taxing.

If the "smartest woman in the country" couldn't figure out what the rest of us knew was true then I apparently must not have a firm grasp on the definition of "smartest".


Speaking of which, at least I am in good company in my opinion of her:




America's finest can spot a fraud, even one dressed up in a snazzy black pantsuit.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dude, do you realize what that means? Bush's ratings are already sinking. A Rove indictment would make Bush a major league lame duck. He'd be so caught in investigations that he'd never get any of his agenda through. He'd look like Bubba and Reagan in the last three years of their respective terms. This is no Watergate, but it smells awful, and its the just the sort of incredible gift the news media needs right now.

For these reasons and more, I still say it can't be Rove. He cannot be that stupid.

I'd have to say that a man, based on political agenda, outing a woman as a CIA Agent and putting her and her children in harm's way after she has dedicated/risked her life to working for the people of the United States of America, would be far worse than Watergate in the public's mind. If Rove did it, Bush is so going to be toast.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Maybe not directly, but complicit. Two words, Vince Foster. That's an easy one.

See, Hank? The best he can do is "Maybe not directly."

Face it -- Penske is symptomatic of the right-wing Repub obsession, and he's convinced that the Clintons have murdered dozens.

He's a wackadoo, but at least he's not my wackadoo.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Her comment about her husband not being in an affair with Lewinsky on the Today show was a lie.

Laura Bush doesn't need to say anything, she wasn't elected, who cares what she thinks, truth or not.

1. I couldn't have written anything funnier in reply. Thanks for saving me the effort.

2. I didn't accuse her of lying. But you're being quite presumptuous in assuming she thinks.

PS: You have to give Bubba credit... When Hillary started rambling about natl health care and it became obvious she was going to cost him politically, he shut her right the fuck down, and hard.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Classic Penske.

Get caught saying something really, really stupid and indefensible.

Respond with another photo from your one-handed websurfing file.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
I'd have to say that a man, based on political agenda, outing a woman as a CIA Agent and putting her and her children in harm's way after she has dedicated/risked her life to working for the people of the United States of America, would be far worse than Watergate in the public's mind. If Rove did it, Bush is so going to be toast.

At the very least, we'll have months of entertainment watching the Wahhabi Repubs on this board argue why it was no big deal (last time round on this issue, they were arguing that her identity wasn't really a secret, and it really wasn't that big a deal, because the gov't didn't really make much effort to keep her identity secret, and after all ---- 9/11.)

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I can only speculate, but I presume that statement fell into the "thought true but eventually proven incorrect" category. Persecute if you must, but your willful forgetfulness of the current Administration's embrace of this mantra must be taxing.

Was hillary's statement of no affairs supported by UN resolutions?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
I'd have to say that a man, based on political agenda, outing a woman as a CIA Agent and putting her and her children in harm's way after she has dedicated/risked her life to working for the people of the United States of America, would be far worse than Watergate in the public's mind. If Rove did it, Bush is so going to be toast.

No paper trail will ever lead to W. No Wtaregate tapes exist. Everybody learned from Nixon.

Rove getting shitcanned or indicted would just be the final straw which ensured a lame duck second term (not that W hasn't done all he could to ensure that on his own with his politically suicidal SS overhaul plan... even if it is a fair and pretty good idea).

And it would be a wonderful and fitting end to the career of a nasty thug who'd managed - despite the widely held belief that it was impossible to do so - to lower the political discourse in the nation about five notches. Karl Rove deserves six months in jail before getting his lobbying firm rolling...