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Old 02-27-2008, 03:14 PM   #2371
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So, if I may get this straight (to use your "misstatement by omission" analogy from the other day), candidates should speak as if they were reading a prospectus aloud? Have you ever applied that standard to oral representations made by the current occupant of the White House?

Anyway, whatever gets you through the night, Hank. You're clearly one of those lawyers who argue with opposing counsel about the form of the order after you lose on a motion to dismiss. Feel free to continue to quibble about the comma placement, and the use of "served" versus "filed."


i just realized you cited to comments made after my bitch. so you're saying I was right until last night? Because I'm counting that double then.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:18 PM   #2372
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i just realized you cited to comments made after my bitch. so you're saying I was right until last night? Because I'm counting that double then.
Translation: Just because Judge Fitzwilliger said "complaint dismissed with prejudice" at the hearing doesn't mean that the order shouldn't give me leave to amend within 45 days.

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Old 02-27-2008, 03:20 PM   #2373
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Translation: Just because Judge Fitzwilliger said "complaint dismissed with prejudice" at the hearing doesn't mean that the order shouldn't give me leave to amend within 45 days.

Hank: "Your honor my client slipped in the Fatboy's sausage Gravey from the broken bottle at Piggily Wiggilies."

NotBob: "Not true your honor. Look at these photos of the clean floor at Pig's taken right after the janitors finished for the night!"
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:23 PM   #2374
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Yes. I agree with NB (I think) that you can tell she knows she is going down, and she is trying to fight back with any BS she can.

She knows she loses on charisma, and their policy positions are very similar on most subjects, so it is hard to make distinctions on substance.

At the same time, however, HC also has to be a bit restrained in her public attacks for a variety of reasons -- including (I think) race, intra-party dynamics, and many voters' distaste for the negative (at least in a primary).

Nothing sticks to Obama (so far) -- he just handles it. The WaPo TV critic has taken to analyzing the debates for style points (not substance), and said this morning that Obama is the best communicator in politics since Reagan, and comes across almost as well as Reagan on television. McCain had better remember to shave before the debates.

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It is hard to go too negative on the guy who says he is trying to rise above that.

But I actually thought if she was going to go down that round with the Farrakhan questions, she needed to be far more agressive for it to have any effect.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:27 PM   #2375
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Serious Question

Does anyone have any inside information on whether the bill currently pending to allow Bkcy judges to force mortgage lenders to take discounts actually has a snowball's chance in hell of going through?
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:28 PM   #2376
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Hank: "Your honor my client slipped in the Fatboy's sausage Gravey from the broken bottle at Piggily Wiggilies."

NotBob: "Not true your honor. Look at these photos of the clean floor at Pig's taken right after the janitors finished for the night!"
Hank, if anyone here other than you thinks that you are right on this issue, anyone at all, I will support the board for a month.

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Old 02-27-2008, 03:36 PM   #2377
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In 1972, Bobby Orr won the Conn Smythe award.

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Hank, if anyone here other than you thinks that you are right on this issue, anyone at all, I will support the board for a month.

I just got an email from management asking me to support Hank on this.

Why do I always have to do the dirty work.

I support Hank in the sense that Hank's position is not completely absurd.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:39 PM   #2378
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Hank, if anyone here other than you thinks that you are right on this issue, anyone at all, I will support the board for a month.

NotBob, as I understand Hank's point it is that you are bringing in a statement made after he questioned the behavior. Hank, it turns out, does possess the ability to predict the future accurately, but not as to every little thing. I think Hank makes a fair point when he says you can't bring in a statement made after his rant to prove his rant was not accurate. Am I missing something?







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Old 02-27-2008, 03:39 PM   #2379
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If the stuff is out there, which is sort of is, I can see asking him the question once to let him respond. But then all the follow-up stuff is just a gratuitous smear. Obama denounced the guy a moment before, so why is Russert going on about it?
2. I agree with you here. Obama's being asked about Farrakhan b/c Obama's black. If McCain went to a church whose pastor had some kind words for Farrakahn during one of his sermon's, you'd never see McCain being questioned about it. This type of questioning shows the instinctual concerns about the candidates as opposed to concerns about their positions and politics. People fear a black man turning on Jews and being soft on Muslims b/c Muslims are our enemy right now - all over the world and even at home, fighting physically and having wars of words. People have seen increasing comfy-ness between Islam/Muslims and African Americans and aren't comfortable with that. People will try to find a "legitimate" reason to question Obama about this, like I heard your pastor was nice to so and so who said such and such about so and so. But there isn't any "real" reason to question Obama (as far as I can tell) except that he's black and there's this discomfort out there about blacks and Muslims. Nobody asked Carter how he felt about Jews during his presidential campaign. They should have.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:41 PM   #2380
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not exactly surprising

Not only have the design firms creating Obama's marketing materials been winning the branding wars, but it also is apparent from the viral videos and non-commissioned artwork that has been popping up that Obama has been a more inspiring subject for the creatives generally.
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I don't know if they've been reporting on this outside the state, but the early voting has been beyond record braking in this election, like over 1000%. In four days of early voting (with three more to go) there've been more ballots cast in Harris County than in all of 2004, including election day. It's been HUGELY Democratic.

There's a lot of speculation that Republicans are asking for Democratic ballots, but I'm unclear of their strategy. Some people suggest that they're trying to get rid of Hillary Clinton. She scares them more than Obama does.

This whole thing is throwing Texas into a frenzy, because there are a lot of state primaries that are suddenly in play. I've never seen anything like this before.
In other TX news, Chicago has nothing on them. The dead endorse Hilllary.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:55 PM   #2382
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i just realized you cited to comments made after my bitch. so you're saying I was right until last night? Because I'm counting that double then.
You can keep pulling this dead horse around the corral as often as you like, but it was dead wrong when you first brought it in and the horse's name ain't Lazarus.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:57 PM   #2383
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NotBob, as I understand Hank's point it is that you are bringing in a statement made after he questioned the behavior. Hank, it turns out, does possess the ability to predict the future accurately, but not as to every little thing. I think Hank makes a fair point when he says you can't bring in a statement made after his rant to prove his rant was not accurate. Am I missing something?
Ty@50, here's what Hank said this morning when he posted his win-loss record (emphasis supplied):

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ummm, nope. my point wasn't that he never said that, I was saying whenever they talk about "pulling out of Iraq" they shouldn't say "bring them home," when they mean "send them to Afghanistan."
And *my* point has been that Obama has been saying that Iraq has been a distraction from Afghanistan, that he has said it in speeches well before last night, and those speeches are highlighed on his campaign website. I simply noted this morning that he repeated it again last night in response to some comment by Clinton.

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Old 02-27-2008, 04:03 PM   #2384
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In 1972, Rollie Fingers had one hell of a World Series.

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And *my* point has been that Obama has been saying that Iraq has been a distraction from Afghanistan, that he has said it in speeches well before last night, and those speeches are highlighed on his campaign website. I simply noted this morning that he repeated it again last night in response to some comment by Clinton.

I also think Hank won. If you have so many prior statements why didn't you cite on of them?
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:05 PM   #2385
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I also think Hank won. If you have so many prior statements why didn't you cite on of them?
Votes from socks only count as 0.07 of one honest-to-god poster. So if you're pulling them out, you might as well go ahead and empty the drawer.
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