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Old 07-21-2004, 07:14 PM   #226
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is this the problem? i mean this is the null set, right?
Inside the 1967 borders, I mean.

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or is this? does the wall inherently require more land be taken?
Only because they're trying build it around West Bank settlements.
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Old 07-21-2004, 07:17 PM   #227
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No need to invade. Its a soverign Islamic country after all. But can we get the tour moved somewhere friendlier? We have mountains here for goodness sakes.
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Old 07-21-2004, 07:44 PM   #228
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Inside the 1967 borders, I mean.



Only because they're trying build it around West Bank settlements.
Why do you think Israel should go back to the 67 borders, given that (a) they were attacked and (b) there has not yet been a negotiated settlement?
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Why do you think Israel should go back to the 67 borders, given that (a) they were attacked and (b) there has not yet been a negotiated settlement?
I didn't say "go back to" the 1967 borders, I said "not build a wall on the other side of" the 1967 borders. Without a negotiated settlement, it's not their land.
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Inside the 1967 borders, I mean.
Should we only protect the US from terrorists inside the 1844 borders?
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Old 07-21-2004, 07:48 PM   #231
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Should we only protect the US from terrorists inside the 1844 borders?
I think we cut deals with Mexico, Russia, Spain, and other countries involved thereafter.
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I didn't say "go back to" the 1967 borders, I said "not build a wall on the other side of" the 1967 borders. Without a negotiated settlement, it's not their land.
Ok, thanks for clarifying.

I agree with you on this. This is supposed to be all about protection - not a land grab.

I have read though, that in several areas the temporary fence was extended in certain hot areas to provide cover for when the more permanent wall is built.

Your guess is as good as mine as to whether this is true or not.
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Old 07-21-2004, 07:54 PM   #233
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I agree with you on this. This is supposed to be all about protection - not a land grab.
That was the irritating thing about the story I heard. One side was condemning Israel for what it was doing (?), and Israeli was talking about its need to protect itself, and I thought, will no one say, fine, protect yourself, but don't be grabbing land while you do it.

I'm willing to mediate the whole thing if they'll pay my hourly rate.
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F that.

54 - 40 or fight!!!!!!
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F that.

54 - 40 or fight!!!!!!
Somewhere on a Mexican message board, someone named El Slavo is typing, "Remember the Gadsden Purchase!" (But in Spanish.)
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Old 07-21-2004, 08:05 PM   #236
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That was the irritating thing about the story I heard. One side was condemning Israel for what it was doing (?), and Israeli was talking about its need to protect itself, and I thought, will no one say, fine, protect yourself, but don't be grabbing land while you do it.

I'm willing to mediate the whole thing if they'll pay my hourly rate.
Oh, sorry, I think I misunderstood. You are just saying that no one should dispute Israel's right to build on the 67 border.
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Now you know how our side feels about 40% of your posts, 63% of Panda's posts, 48% of Ty's and how we think we'd feel about most of Atticus' if translated into normal.

Trust me, if Bush said "there were never any WMD in Iraq and I knew that all along," Atticus, Ty, Panda and I would not say that "Bush is a liar, so don't believe him on this one."

Well, Atticus might, but you'd need the Rosetta Stone to figure it out.
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HARARE, Zimbabwe -- The trial in Zimbabwe of 70 men accused of being mercenaries plotting to oust the government of Equatorial Guinea has been postponed for a day to give lawyers more time to prepare their case.
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If you can prepare to try a capital case in one additional day, you're a better lawyer than I am.*

But the true highlight of this CNN story:

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The suspects -- South Africans, Namibians, Angolans, Congolese, a Zimbabwean and a UK national -- are former members of South Africa's apartheid-era military.
Here's the picture CNN ran with the story -- the description is "The alleged mercenaries at Chikurubi prison in Harare"



I had no idea the old school Afrikaners were so color-blind.




* which you are anyway in all likelihood. No need to swing at the softball.
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Old 07-21-2004, 10:30 PM   #239
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I'm willing to mediate the whole thing if they'll pay my hourly rate.
Timing is everything. You should have offered when the UN still had the oil for food kick backs coming in.
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Old 07-21-2004, 10:39 PM   #240
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I didn't say "go back to" the 1967 borders, I said "not build a wall on the other side of" the 1967 borders. Without a negotiated settlement, it's not their land.
Israel did negotiate settlement with the enemy countries in the war. But that's besides the point, the Palestinians won't stop terrorist actions against Israelis in until they get land inside the 1967 borders and get a right to return to Israel proper. Neither of those things will happen any time soon.
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