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		|  12-07-2004, 05:17 PM | #226 |  
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 Hank is Ezra Klein over at www.pandagon.com: 
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		| Also, I'm always surprised how heated discussions concerning little language marks get. I can post on Al Qaeda eating children and people respond with detached analysis. Mention the comma and they start throwing virtual furniture. | 
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		|  12-07-2004, 06:23 PM | #227 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop 
 (3) 80% of the country may want the transition to succeed, but that may not be enough.
 |  Shoot only 70% of america wants us to suceed; 80% is great!
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		|  12-07-2004, 06:29 PM | #228 |  
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		| Originally posted by Hank Chinaski Shoot only 70% of america wants us to suceed; 80% is great!
 |  That's 51%, and the secret of your success is that the rest of us would rather hold elections every couple of years than start the shooting.  This is largely because we fear the firepower of bilmore's family.
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		|  12-07-2004, 06:38 PM | #229 |  
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		| Shape Shifter Oh.  In that case, excellent point, club!
 
 eta:  So the troops come home in 2063?
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2090.  Same year as the next Sox World Series. |  
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		|  12-07-2004, 07:56 PM | #230 |  
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				You call this reform?
			 
 I would be very grateful if someone could explain to me why this description of the intelligence "reform" bill  is wrong.  The gist is that the White House opposes real reform, but doesn't want to take the heat, so has presided over the creation of a hollow simulcrum of it.
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		|  12-07-2004, 08:15 PM | #231 |  
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				GOP family values
			 
 This is a low blow, but what the hell.  A couple short months ago:
 Bush introduced Mike and Sharla Hintz, a couple from Clive, whom he said benefited from his tax plan.
 Last year, because of the enhanced the child tax credit, they received an extra $1,600 in their tax refund, Bush said. With other tax cuts in the bill, they saved $2,800 on their income taxes.
 
 They used the money to buy a wood-burning stove to more efficiently heat their home, made some home improvements and went on a vacation to Minnesota, the president said.
 
 "Next year, maybe they'll want to come to Texas," Bush quipped.
 
 Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.
 
 He said he supports Bush's values.
 
 "The American people are starting to see what kind of leader President Bush is. People know where he stands," he said.
 
 "Where we are in this world, with not just the war on terror, but with the war with our culture that's going on, I think we need a man that is going to be in the White House like President Bush, that's going to stand by what he believes.
 
Today:
 A Des Moines youth pastor is charged with the sexual exploitation of a child.
 KCCI learned that the married father of four recently turned himself in to Johnston police.
 
 Rev. Mike Hintz was fired from the First Assembly of God Church, located at 2725 Merle Hay Road, on Oct. 30. Hintz was the youth pastor there for three years.
 
 Police said he started an affair with a 17-year-old in the church youth group this spring.
 
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		|  12-07-2004, 08:22 PM | #232 |  
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				GOP family values
			 
 
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop This is a low blow, but what the hell.  A couple short months ago:
 
 Bush introduced Mike and Sharla Hintz, a couple from Clive, whom he said benefited from his tax plan.
 Last year, because of the enhanced the child tax credit, they received an extra $1,600 in their tax refund, Bush said. With other tax cuts in the bill, they saved $2,800 on their income taxes.
 
 They used the money to buy a wood-burning stove to more efficiently heat their home, made some home improvements and went on a vacation to Minnesota, the president said.
 
 "Next year, maybe they'll want to come to Texas," Bush quipped.
 
 Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.
 
 He said he supports Bush's values.
 
 "The American people are starting to see what kind of leader President Bush is. People know where he stands," he said.
 
 "Where we are in this world, with not just the war on terror, but with the war with our culture that's going on, I think we need a man that is going to be in the White House like President Bush, that's going to stand by what he believes.
 Today:
 
 A Des Moines youth pastor is charged with the sexual exploitation of a child.
 KCCI learned that the married father of four recently turned himself in to Johnston police.
 
 Rev. Mike Hintz was fired from the First Assembly of God Church, located at 2725 Merle Hay Road, on Oct. 30. Hintz was the youth pastor there for three years.
 
 Police said he started an affair with a 17-year-old in the church youth group this spring.
 |   He got Falwell'd.
   
(I couldn't find a photo with the sideways trucker hat look that he ripped off from Kutcher) |  
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		|  12-07-2004, 08:28 PM | #233 |  
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		| Tyrone Slothrop This is a low blow, but what the hell.
 
 ....Police said he started an affair with a 17-year-old in the church youth group this spring.[/list]
 |  OK, tag the fool for being a hypocrite and an adulterer.  But sexual exploitation of a CHILD?
 
Come the fuck on.  Has anyone seen an early Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan photoshoot? |  
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		|  12-07-2004, 09:39 PM | #234 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop That's 51%, and the secret of your success is that the rest of us would rather hold elections every couple of years than start the shooting.  This is largely because we fear the firepower of bilmore's family.
 |  so you think everyone who voted for Kerry wants the terrorists to win? subliminally maybe, but only 30% are upfront about it.
 
when the last time you had a beer somewhere other than Mass. or SF?
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		|  12-07-2004, 09:39 PM | #235 |  
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				GOP family values
			 
 
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop This is a low blow, but what the hell.  A couple short months ago:
 
 Bush introduced Mike and Sharla Hintz, a couple from Clive, whom he said benefited from his tax plan.
 Last year, because of the enhanced the child tax credit, they received an extra $1,600 in their tax refund, Bush said. With other tax cuts in the bill, they saved $2,800 on their income taxes.
 
 They used the money to buy a wood-burning stove to more efficiently heat their home, made some home improvements and went on a vacation to Minnesota, the president said.
 
 "Next year, maybe they'll want to come to Texas," Bush quipped.
 
 Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.
 
 He said he supports Bush's values.
 
 "The American people are starting to see what kind of leader President Bush is. People know where he stands," he said.
 
 "Where we are in this world, with not just the war on terror, but with the war with our culture that's going on, I think we need a man that is going to be in the White House like President Bush, that's going to stand by what he believes.
 Today:
 
 A Des Moines youth pastor is charged with the sexual exploitation of a child.
 KCCI learned that the married father of four recently turned himself in to Johnston police.
 
 Rev. Mike Hintz was fired from the First Assembly of God Church, located at 2725 Merle Hay Road, on Oct. 30. Hintz was the youth pastor there for three years.
 
 Police said he started an affair with a 17-year-old in the church youth group this spring.
 |  Yea, but they got tax relief. |  
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		|  12-07-2004, 09:48 PM | #236 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Re Afghanistan, the truer test of a democracy is whether power is surrendered peacefully.  That's why what has been happening in Ukraine is far more meaningful and momentous than what has been happening in Afghanistan.
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		|  12-07-2004, 09:55 PM | #237 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.
 
 He said he supports Bush's values.
 |  He Kerry'd, and now he supports Clinton's values. |  
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		|  12-07-2004, 09:59 PM | #238 |  
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		| Originally posted by Adder Huh?
 |  It's one thing to invoke democracy as you take power.  It's quite another to give power up.
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		|  12-07-2004, 10:07 PM | #239 |  
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		| Originally posted by Hank Chinaski so you think everyone who voted for Kerry wants the terrorists to win? subliminally maybe, but only 30% are upfront about it.
 
 |  Personally, I have had enough of prosperous, tolerant, free, Western culture and would strongly prefer to live in a society dominated by religious fundamentalists who are empowered to enforce their religion and values on the rest of society.
 
Ad(maybe I should have voted for Bush)der
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		|  12-07-2004, 10:12 PM | #240 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop It's one thing to invoke democracy as you take power.  It's quite another to give power up.
 |  what is the term for moderator?
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